The BIG "Was this a LD?" topic - Part II

Hi kitkat_neko! Welcome to LD4all! :wave:

No doubt, it was a lucid dream, and you even have had a great one for your beginnings! Congrats! :good:

I’m not sure to understand your question. The important thing in a LD is that you feel like present when it happens. When you wake up, of course, it’s a dream. But perhaps are you right and your lucidity level was not so high. What would surprise me a little cause you seems to have good reactions in it.

You managed to summon Gackt, didn’t you? :tongue: I think it’s a good result. Lucidity doesn’t necessary mean control. You often have to trick your dream in order to obtain what you want. For instance, transforming objects instead of creating them, or looking for a character to appear behind a door instead of making it appear in front of you.

It’s curious. I don’t know. :eh: It won’t probably occur in your next LD.

I hope you’ll have soon new LD’s to tell us! :happy:

Thank you for the welcome and congratulations! :grin:

Well I meant (and apology in advance for anything that sounds odd, english isn’t my first language, and I write a little quirky when excited or upset :content: ), the dream, although I was lucid, felt a little -too- much like a dream. Perhaps it’s because I was expecting the LD to feel way more real, yet I didn’t pay enough attention to my surroundings (which would have made it feel more unreal).
I felt present alright! :happy: After the freakiness from having 9 fingers passed (and not being able to float back down right away), it was pretty cool, and I can’t wait to do it again :tongue:

I apparently did. :grin:

Looking back to it, I think I was putting too much effort into the things that didn’t work out (summoning the character, moving the bill), but the other things that I had only thought about seemed to work far better.

And… Gackt did appear from a door, and not just in front of me. :wink:

I guess I didn’t do that bad for a first experience, eh? :happy: I’m really excited about it all. I had only once changed a dream (sort of rewinded it several times because I didn’t like how it was coming along)but I wasn’t LD back then until after I rewinded it about 9 times and was about to wake up. :shy:

It was quite weird. My fingertips sort of hurted when I rubbed my palms toghether :confused: Well, if anything, the pain sort of made me feel more lucid… and curse, once. :content:

I just kept getting the feeling I wasn’t going to be able to undo things though. (Like the hovering thing, that I’d never go back down, or the falling asleep to wake up thing, I thought I’d sleep forever. :crazy: )
Is it usual to think so irrationally? :tongue:

Neither it’s mine. I think you speak english very well… but an english person would be a better judge than me! :lol:

Yes, you managed very well ! :happy:

It’s very common. I think I’ve never had a very rational thinking in my lucid dreams. And most often, I don’t remember my dream goals or I don’t know what to do next. It’s possible though if you have a high lucidity level. Some people do some maths, or just shout “Increase lucidity!”.

Good luck on your next attempts! :smile:

Hey, thanks! :grin:

:content: How frustrating that is. I knew in my dream I wanted to do a lot of things and I couldn’t come up with almost anything. (Makes me glad I had that chat about Gackt the night before or that wouldn’t have occured to me).

I think my next dream goal will be to remember my dream goals. :wink:

I don’t really know if this was an LD or not, but when I woke up during the night a few weeks ago, I looked at my door (which I always keep open) and saw my mom’s silhouette standing in front of it (I asked her if she was in my room that night and she wasn’t). A second later, I felt someone touching me and it sent chills down my body. When I “woke up” I could still feel the spot where I was touched and feel the chills leaving my body. I was in the same position and looking at the same place I had been in my “dream”. I don’t know if this was really an LD because I’ve never had one with such exact detail before. I know I wasn’t exactly awake because I saw everything so clearly and I have to wear glasses to do that in RL.

Well , I think it wasn`t an LD if you just sensed that something were rare , but it is a big step towards lucidity !. :thumbs:

And it was a very nice dream !

Hi acuatia!

I don’t think it was a lucid dream. It looks like a false awakening. Sometimes, false awakenings are amazing, cause your consciousness is quite similar to the waking state consciousness. Though those conscious dreams are very particular, they aren’t exactly “lucid”, cause the definition of lucidity implies you have to realize you’re dreaming.

Ok, thanks. I just wasn’t sure.

Hey all! Newbie here…

I’ve had a sparse few lucid dreams in my lifetime–wish they were more, indeed–and just found this site; am definitely interested in some of these techniques.

I shan’t bore you with recounting my first lucid dream–I was very young and terrified of nightmares, and had to convince myself they were dreams with little mantras and reality checks… ah, didn’t know it at the time, but it did cure the nightmares. :wink:

Anyway, I want to recapture that desperately! So, here’s my deal…I often have dreams where I do something like an RC (I plug my nose and blow constantly in real life, it’s a quirk), or (very often) realize that I’m, say, in a comedy club, the jokes are TERRIBLE… apparently I’m absolutely un-funny while asleep… and hit that “Oh, dang, is this just a dream?” phase.

I doubt that’s true lucidity, because no, I’m not really BELIEVING it yet. Of course, this is just sort of normal… I didn’t realize that lucidity was even a goal to be attained… so what would be effective in getting me that last step, should I find myself in one of the aforementioned dreams again?

Thanks very much!

Hi foureyedsnail!

As you said, you “didn’t realize that lucidity was even a goal to be attained”. I suppose now you know it, wanting to reach this goal and just continuing practising what you were doing (RC’s and little mantras) will give you lucid dreams easily. :smile:


Well I had this "dream " .
In the morning i lay and stretched , falling asleep, waking up …
It`s wekend !
Then I had some dreams which I awoke from , I still could see my DB but more as something very vague . not Vivid at ALL !
When i rubbed my hands i felt the warmth and continued .And the DB became a little bit more in focus . But not much I kind off felt the warmth in my real hands ! :eh: My RB was in main focus , I Even movd myself to new positions and stuff .

My question is :

Is this very good fantasi or a LD `?

You mean you rubbed your hands after waking up? It could have been a FA in which you were both aware of dream body and real body. This is not uncommon, but can be pretty confusing if one doesn’t realize what’s going on.
From your account I can’t tell if it was a LD. Did you REALIZE you were dreaming, or did you just rub your hands in a kind of automatic action, without realizing what and why you’re doing it?

It wasn`t a FA .
I think .

I laid in my bed .
It was like waking up , but the DB was still there .
Kind off.
Ifelt my RB and everything , actually I moved too .
But I could still feel my DB .
I knew it was some sort of dream .
That`s why i rubbed my hands .(with the DB)
But I felt in my Real hands too !
I know this may be VERY confusing …

And there were no surroundings , just black eyelids and both bodies .

Either you woke up irl, or you woke up in FA. If you woke up irl, you must have noticed some SP sensations, but I haven’t seen anything of those in your account. Plus, you knew it was some kind of dream, leaving me to conclude it was some kind of FA. Why do you think it wasn’t a FA?

Well 2 of them cant I tell you that I wasnt in FA … :neutral:
But the last on had I right before raising from the bed and starting the day .
But I`ll start RCing in the morning .
It was really weird !

I had NO SP
Di`d even move .
But i still felt my DB…
And my RB .
I felt my RB the most ut I still could feel the warmth in my hands in the DB .

Perhaps they were strong hypnopompic hallucinations happening after SP was already shutdown. Hypnopompia are like hypnagogia, but hypnopompia occur during waking up in the morning. If that’s the case, you were truly between sleeping and waking, a state in which the mind is highly influenced by dream fragments, memory traces and hallucinatory visuals.

Thanks for all help !
The rare thing is that I could move my DB !
But , thanks for all the help !:thumbs: :hugs:

Can I post them in the competition For november ? :shy:

Well, during hypnopompic hallucinations, waking perceptions at that moment (these can be very simple forms of awareness, like your real body, your bed, or merely the sensation of lying down) can get mixed with dream perceptions. This happens when we make the transition from dreaming to waking. Some dream fragments or sensation can always linger on a little longer. So it might not be a rare thing to have the sensation of moving your DB :smile:

Personally, I wouldn’t include hypnagogia or hypnopompia to the definition of a dream. Likewise, becoming lucid during these hallucinations may be rare (some call it protolucidity), but it’s not the same as becoming lucid in a dream.

Ok .
Than you so much ! :hug: :hugs:

Lastnight I think I may have had a lucid moment, I’m not really sure.
I’ve only been doing reality checks and recording my dreams for a few days now, but I’ve found that I’ve been remembering them ALOT easier since I’ve started recording them.

In the dream I remember standing there in a flat kind of void (don’t ask me to explain this cos I can’t, lol). My dreams are usually in the third person, this time I was face on and sort of raised, as if I was standing on a wall looking down at myself. Then I seemed to realise it was a dream, and I stood there feeling very confused and not knowing what to do. I felt as though the darkness was engulfing me and I remembered what I’d read about spinning, so I spun.
It didn’t have any effect though, the darkness just completely swallowed me up and I had a normal dream after (which had nothing to do whatsoever with what I’d experienced beforehand).

I’m really not sure if I was lucid or not during this moment. The way I remember it is as if I was dreaming that I was lucid… if that makes sense and is possible. Is there a difference between dreaming that you’re lucid and actually BEING lucid? CAN you dream that you’re lucid? Either way I think I’m a step closer :smile: …well, hope.