No doubt, it was a lucid dream, and you even have had a great one for your beginnings! Congrats!
Iām not sure to understand your question. The important thing in a LD is that you feel like present when it happens. When you wake up, of course, itās a dream. But perhaps are you right and your lucidity level was not so high. What would surprise me a little cause you seems to have good reactions in it.
You managed to summon Gackt, didnāt you? I think itās a good result. Lucidity doesnāt necessary mean control. You often have to trick your dream in order to obtain what you want. For instance, transforming objects instead of creating them, or looking for a character to appear behind a door instead of making it appear in front of you.
Itās curious. I donāt know. It wonāt probably occur in your next LD.
Well I meant (and apology in advance for anything that sounds odd, english isnāt my first language, and I write a little quirky when excited or upset ), the dream, although I was lucid, felt a little -too- much like a dream. Perhaps itās because I was expecting the LD to feel way more real, yet I didnāt pay enough attention to my surroundings (which would have made it feel more unreal).
I felt present alright! After the freakiness from having 9 fingers passed (and not being able to float back down right away), it was pretty cool, and I canāt wait to do it again
I apparently did.
Looking back to it, I think I was putting too much effort into the things that didnāt work out (summoning the character, moving the bill), but the other things that I had only thought about seemed to work far better.
And⦠Gackt did appear from a door, and not just in front of me.
I guess I didnāt do that bad for a first experience, eh? Iām really excited about it all. I had only once changed a dream (sort of rewinded it several times because I didnāt like how it was coming along)but I wasnāt LD back then until after I rewinded it about 9 times and was about to wake up.
It was quite weird. My fingertips sort of hurted when I rubbed my palms toghether Well, if anything, the pain sort of made me feel more lucid⦠and curse, once.
I just kept getting the feeling I wasnāt going to be able to undo things though. (Like the hovering thing, that Iād never go back down, or the falling asleep to wake up thing, I thought Iād sleep forever. )
Is it usual to think so irrationally?
Neither itās mine. I think you speak english very well⦠but an english person would be a better judge than me!
Yes, you managed very well !
Itās very common. I think Iāve never had a very rational thinking in my lucid dreams. And most often, I donāt remember my dream goals or I donāt know what to do next. Itās possible though if you have a high lucidity level. Some people do some maths, or just shout āIncrease lucidity!ā.
How frustrating that is. I knew in my dream I wanted to do a lot of things and I couldnāt come up with almost anything. (Makes me glad I had that chat about Gackt the night before or that wouldnāt have occured to me).
I think my next dream goal will be to remember my dream goals.
I donāt really know if this was an LD or not, but when I woke up during the night a few weeks ago, I looked at my door (which I always keep open) and saw my momās silhouette standing in front of it (I asked her if she was in my room that night and she wasnāt). A second later, I felt someone touching me and it sent chills down my body. When I āwoke upā I could still feel the spot where I was touched and feel the chills leaving my body. I was in the same position and looking at the same place I had been in my ādreamā. I donāt know if this was really an LD because Iāve never had one with such exact detail before. I know I wasnāt exactly awake because I saw everything so clearly and I have to wear glasses to do that in RL.
I donāt think it was a lucid dream. It looks like a false awakening. Sometimes, false awakenings are amazing, cause your consciousness is quite similar to the waking state consciousness. Though those conscious dreams are very particular, they arenāt exactly ālucidā, cause the definition of lucidity implies you have to realize youāre dreaming.
Iāve had a sparse few lucid dreams in my lifetimeāwish they were more, indeedāand just found this site; am definitely interested in some of these techniques.
I shanāt bore you with recounting my first lucid dreamāI was very young and terrified of nightmares, and had to convince myself they were dreams with little mantras and reality checks⦠ah, didnāt know it at the time, but it did cure the nightmares.
Anyway, I want to recapture that desperately! So, hereās my dealā¦I often have dreams where I do something like an RC (I plug my nose and blow constantly in real life, itās a quirk), or (very often) realize that Iām, say, in a comedy club, the jokes are TERRIBLE⦠apparently Iām absolutely un-funny while asleep⦠and hit that āOh, dang, is this just a dream?ā phase.
I doubt thatās true lucidity, because no, Iām not really BELIEVING it yet. Of course, this is just sort of normal⦠I didnāt realize that lucidity was even a goal to be attained⦠so what would be effective in getting me that last step, should I find myself in one of the aforementioned dreams again?
As you said, you ādidnāt realize that lucidity was even a goal to be attainedā. I suppose now you know it, wanting to reach this goal and just continuing practising what you were doing (RCās and little mantras) will give you lucid dreams easily.
Well I had this "dream " .
In the morning i lay and stretched , falling asleep, waking up ā¦
It`s wekend !
Then I had some dreams which I awoke from , I still could see my DB but more as something very vague . not Vivid at ALL !
When i rubbed my hands i felt the warmth and continued .And the DB became a little bit more in focus . But not much I kind off felt the warmth in my real hands ! My RB was in main focus , I Even movd myself to new positions and stuff .
You mean you rubbed your hands after waking up? It could have been a FA in which you were both aware of dream body and real body. This is not uncommon, but can be pretty confusing if one doesnāt realize whatās going on.
From your account I canāt tell if it was a LD. Did you REALIZE you were dreaming, or did you just rub your hands in a kind of automatic action, without realizing what and why youāre doing it?
I laid in my bed .
It was like waking up , but the DB was still there .
Kind off.
Ifelt my RB and everything , actually I moved too .
But I could still feel my DB .
I knew it was some sort of dream .
That`s why i rubbed my hands .(with the DB)
But I felt in my Real hands too !
I know this may be VERY confusing ā¦
And there were no surroundings , just black eyelids and both bodies .
Either you woke up irl, or you woke up in FA. If you woke up irl, you must have noticed some SP sensations, but I havenāt seen anything of those in your account. Plus, you knew it was some kind of dream, leaving me to conclude it was some kind of FA. Why do you think it wasnāt a FA?
Well 2 of them cant I tell you that I wasnt in FA ā¦
But the last on had I right before raising from the bed and starting the day .
But I`ll start RCing in the morning .
It was really weird !
I had NO SP
Di`d even move .
But i still felt my DBā¦
And my RB .
I felt my RB the most ut I still could feel the warmth in my hands in the DB .
Perhaps they were strong hypnopompic hallucinations happening after SP was already shutdown. Hypnopompia are like hypnagogia, but hypnopompia occur during waking up in the morning. If thatās the case, you were truly between sleeping and waking, a state in which the mind is highly influenced by dream fragments, memory traces and hallucinatory visuals.
Well, during hypnopompic hallucinations, waking perceptions at that moment (these can be very simple forms of awareness, like your real body, your bed, or merely the sensation of lying down) can get mixed with dream perceptions. This happens when we make the transition from dreaming to waking. Some dream fragments or sensation can always linger on a little longer. So it might not be a rare thing to have the sensation of moving your DB
Personally, I wouldnāt include hypnagogia or hypnopompia to the definition of a dream. Likewise, becoming lucid during these hallucinations may be rare (some call it protolucidity), but itās not the same as becoming lucid in a dream.
Lastnight I think I may have had a lucid moment, Iām not really sure.
Iāve only been doing reality checks and recording my dreams for a few days now, but Iāve found that Iāve been remembering them ALOT easier since Iāve started recording them.
In the dream I remember standing there in a flat kind of void (donāt ask me to explain this cos I canāt, lol). My dreams are usually in the third person, this time I was face on and sort of raised, as if I was standing on a wall looking down at myself. Then I seemed to realise it was a dream, and I stood there feeling very confused and not knowing what to do. I felt as though the darkness was engulfing me and I remembered what Iād read about spinning, so I spun.
It didnāt have any effect though, the darkness just completely swallowed me up and I had a normal dream after (which had nothing to do whatsoever with what Iād experienced beforehand).
Iām really not sure if I was lucid or not during this moment. The way I remember it is as if I was dreaming that I was lucid⦠if that makes sense and is possible. Is there a difference between dreaming that youāre lucid and actually BEING lucid? CAN you dream that youāre lucid? Either way I think Iām a step closer ā¦well, hope.