I’m a bit confused about WILD.
Some say you have to fall asleep and some say you have to keep yourself awake. which one is it then???!!
I understand that the body must fall asleep and I should keep the mind awake. And then I read that you must fall asleep, does that include mind too?
On my first try I got to the part where my body fell asleep. I didn’t get much HI or HH or whatever. Just heard some thumps coming from a distance. I kept on counting numbers. After a while I didn’t remember which number I just counted and started from 1 again. Then I just gave up, because my body felt very uncomfortable in that position and nothing happened and I got bored.
I read here that if you don’t remember the number you just counted, you’re on the edge. But if I was on the edge, then what’s next?
WILDing happens in different ways to different people, so one technique might work very well for one person and not work at all for another.
For me, WILDing is more of becoming extremely relaxed and then letting my mind drift. The trick, as I see it, it to be able to let my mind drift without fully losing consciousness. Personally, I find that counting leaves my mind too active. Try relaxation exercises and pay attention to the strange sensations that occur after a while.
Then again, I haven’t had more than one successful WILD, and that one was chained from the previous dream. Any advice on keeping becoming too conscious when I start to feel my body fall asleep? Is that just something that comes with experience?
As Cheap Plastic Imitation said, it varies from person to person. I, for example, focus on tinnitus. I find it very easy to fall asleep and stay aware while doing it. It’s like the sleep comes very naturally for me after WBTB.
As for becoming too conscious, just stay aware of your body and surroundings. Don’t try to study them too much. Also, you could try focusing less; I found that counting either kept me up or wouldn’t let me focus enough, and so I couldn’t distinguish the sleep barrier. But then again you had a WILD before, so it should just become easier with experience.
hey! I´ve never succeded in WILD, but I haven´t really tried it that serious. I don´t know if the tecnique is right for me. But I do fall asleep very fast. And when i visualize before i fall aslepp I often have a few sec, when the images is in really high definition, and it feels like im seeing it through my own eyes, but then disapears an soon as i concentrat on the image. Am i close to WILD??
I tried listening to the tinnitus instead of counting last night. I don’t get sleep paralysis, HH nor HI, nor vibrations, so it’s kinda boring. Sometimes it’s painful to breathe. My body falls asleep and my mind is awake. And nothing happens. Except my hand started to itch like REALLY bad. I also could see through my eyes. Even on the first try. It’s annoying because then I try to close my eyes and find that they really are open. I went on as long as I could, but nothing happened so I stopped trying. It was only my third try. I don’t know, whether to give up or continue trying.
gabbe, it means that you are in the hypnagogic stage, thus it’s a good sign. Now I think you have to wait that some image stabilizes or something like that.
Yang, I think you have interesting first results, but by comparison with some people who manage to WILD easily, you have curious problems and it seems you discourage easily. Now to overcome those problems, you’ll have to be very patient. Thus I think you should try another induction method, and from time to time, when you feel motivated enough you try and make some progress in WILD.
It gets said again and again here, WILD is a difficult tech. on the other hand it seems to be a good tech to get LD’s when you want them, so lots of people keep trying it.
I think that the biggest problem with WILD is that you have to learn what works for you. It can take a long time. I have spent up to an hour trying WILD, without much luck. I give up then. When I have some luck, it is usaly in the first half hour. If it takes longer then that, I am not tired enough, or I just can’t concentrate enough.
The important things as I see them:
Being tired enough in your body, without being too tired in your mind. This is why it works best with WBTB, or naps in the afternoon.
Mantaining the correct balance between concentration and relaxation. This was the first big problem for me. I tried counting, but that keep me to awake. I tried listening to music or induction cds, but that keep me awake also. Now I just concentrate on relaxing, and trying to keep my mind awake. I do get some HI, but not much. That is not important. Some people have a lot, some don’t. If you do get it, don’t pay much attention to it, unless you are one of the people who can enter an LD by entering your HI. I can’t do that. For me there is always a very definat break between HI, when I have it, and the dream that follows. I almost always become lucid when a dream starts, but so far have always woken up within a few seconds of becomming lucid.
Staying in the dream after you become lucid. This is where I am right now. I havn’t been working on LD’ing for about a month now because of stress at work, but the last few times I did, I would get this far and then wake up. By not moving and staying relaxed, I could often go into another dream within minutes, but then I would wake up again within seconds.
Maybe this will help some of the people out there who are trying WILD. I hope that I can get better at it, so far I had most of my LD’s with this method. Unfortunatly, my longest so far was just about a half minute. In the last one I started flying right after I got lucid, and kept going higher and higher until everything under me went black and I woke up. Maybe next time.
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I tried WILD again last night. Usually it’s hard to fall asleep afterwards(probably because I concentrate too much and am too awake). Yesterday I tried WILD without sleeping with a pillow and I fell asleep. I never get lucid though.
“Don’t give up”. That must be in your mind all the time if you’re going to stick with WILD. Adjust your WILD tech until it’s “perfect” for you. Also, don’t get frustrated/stressed.
I came within inches of a WILD LD, my headphones were broken and I decided to use Brainwave Generator, though I thought that the noise would give me insomnia. Though after about 20 minutes I had the sensation of spinning on my own axis (which according to the ld4all homepage can also lead to OOBEs), I did get slightly scared at this point, and decided to come out of it.
That’s about as close as it’s got for me, all the other pre-sleep state phenonemom have been a falling sensations.
When I’m trying WILD, I always count 1, I’m dreaming, 2, I’m dreaming etc. And when I’m at 100 or so, I get some kind of vibrations from my feet up to my chest, and my breathing gets harder. Also it is very hard for my eyes to stay closed.
But I have absolutely no clue what to do next! I have tried concentrating on the vibrations, and they would go away. I have tried not noticing them, and they would go away as well.
So what next? I know I’m quite far in the WILD, since I never have those vibrations when I’m not trying WILD, so I think it is good. But what to do NEXT?
Once you start to feel these vibrations, you should ignore them, but still concentrate, to stay aware. After that you should see your HI, and on your way to a WILD ^^
Whenever I get close to having a WILD, my left leg jerks me awake. It seems no matter how relaxed I am, my left leg jerks me awake and it's really annoying. But
I’ve had those vibrations you talk about, but it’s hard to concentrate whilst it’s happening, I get really disappointed about losing that kind of state. I give it one or two attempts on some nights, but no clear success so far.
Ok I’ve been trying WILD for awhile now, its slowly improving but I wanted to bring up the fact that falling asleep is so easy! I will be at like 67-Im dreaming and then swooshhh my mind is somewhere else and i wake up 5 mins later. Its really annoying…any tips on staying alert while counting? Monitoring my breathing helps but when I notice that it gets deeper and slower I freak out and then again Im back to square one. sigh
I never get lucid though. 
I will be at like 67-Im dreaming and then swooshhh my mind is somewhere else and i wake up 5 mins later. Its really annoying…any tips on staying alert while counting? Monitoring my breathing helps but when I notice that it gets deeper and slower I freak out and then again Im back to square one. sigh