The Doubt Factor

Quest for Lucidity General Lucidness
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moved from Lab to General Lucidness because you aren’t conducting an actual experiment, and like you say yourself, it’s impossible to conduct now when you read your post

I noticed several people complain about being unable to actually “Do” anything in a LD, and that although they are dreaming, they have no control, and can’t do anything. I believe that this might be triggered by the fact that we keep recycling the information that it won’t work, and keep telling them that “it took me a few tries, but you’ll get it eventually!”.

I predict that if you tell people about it, but drop all forms of negativity, they might be able to get it on their first try. Don’t tell them that anything is harder or easier (it’s different for everyone anyway), just tell them that they can do it. (but include the information that it may take a while before it happens, that part is definitely needed, otherwise after day 1 they may become doubtful again because they “couldn’t do it”) The only problem with this kind of data is that everyone reading this has already experienced some of the negativity. I think however, that if you get people to know about this, but make sure that no matter what they don’t find reports of being unable to do stuff in LD’s, (if you do, you can bluff, I guess :razz: although I don’t like lieing at all I’m not against you doing it for benefit) and so will honestly believe that they can get it done on their first try. Don’t tell them that doubt will hinder them, just tell them they can do it on their first try.

It will become true, you know.

At least, in theory.

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There is a research about “positive thinking and suggesting” don’t remember the exact name.
If you self-suggest “I think I can make it” or “I hope I won’t fail” then you will fail in most of chances.
Self-suggestion is a powerfull tool use it wisely and Always think positively “I will succeed”

You know what people, give it a try and in a LD just tell to yourself while flying “I hope I will not fall down”… Afterwards you can post a reply here and tell me how painfull it was :smile:

Cheers

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It was technically not impossible… but… okay…

The idea was to get people to absolutely believe they could on the first time, by not referencing to any failure whatsoever. And then in absolutely believing it, that person would get it on their first try… because if you do tell them about failed attempts, they might be more likely to fail on their first attempt.

It… wasn’t impossible to conduct, but your right, it’s too hard. Still, you should try it with some people and see how much success they have.

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I like this thinking , because for many people the entire reason to pursue effort lies in the presentation of the action as desirable, or not, and if it is neutral, then their own desire will rise up to dance with the presentation and form a conversation, otherwise, some manner of persuasion would seem to arise,
ill emphasis added with bold

which is where confidence is key !
confidence in both presentation of the knowledge material, such as being a teacher, while also, confidence in undertaking the activity, which is to have faith,

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Napoleon Hill said:
" Whatever the mind can conceive, it can achieve. "

Let me elaborate on that.

You see, before doing anything, you must have a mental image of it first. When you’re walking down the street, you subconsciously visualize every step you take before you take it. Such is the nature of our actions. In order for the brain to execute any order, whether it’s a simple step on the road, shootiong someone, or anything else, the mind must have a mental image of that. You visualize every thing you do before you do it.

Now, the point here, with regards to doubt, is that whatever the mind cannot conceive it cannot achieve. Think about it. You can’t see a color that you cannot conceive. You can’t say something that you cannot conceive. Before you do ANYTHING, you must conceive it first.

We were born into a society that educates us to believe that failure is dominant, that success is rare and requires efforts and even worse, luck.

If you grew up in a world where everyone around you got whatever they wanted to, you will be the same way. Because you could not conceive the act of failing, you could not fail.

If you never conceived, in one way or another, a man that dances with the stars you could never dance with the stars. But see, that’s the beauty of it. I just made you conceive it. I just made you aware of it. If I go ahead to talk about a blab of the color red running around the city handing free toilet paper, you are forced to conceive it. See? Just like you just did!

When you are constantly, especially when young and still relatively clean and therefore receptive, told about failures , when that information is introduced to your mind, it is forced to create an image of that thing. Until at one point you reach a stage where other things seem as bizarre , non sense or just plain dumb.

Did anyone feed you information when you were a baby and a kid of achieving success with the flick of a finger ? of course not. Most humans today don’t do that. They give their children their own problems while thinking they’re protecting them.

Beginning to understand ?

That is why people today need to consciously feed themselves information in order for them to override past programming.

Why do you think that ‘it takes time’ for someone to be able to control their dream environment ? Step by step, their mind begins to comprehend that it is possible to manipulate reality. The mind cannot achieve something that it cannot produce a mental image of.

When you take into consideration how everyone is being told that this is hard or takes time and also just think briefly about the depth in which you were programmed to believe that reality cannot be manipulated, that success takes time, success takes pain and efforts, and millions more of these self disempowering beliefs which hold no grip over reality. Only on the reality of a person who is currently sharing those.

A self imposed limitation can only be understood by someone who does not share this limitation.

Hope this helps

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Yes! I agree with you.
This is exactly what I feel is the problem with my LD’s. I used to have some lucid dreams before I even knew what it was, not for very long, I would wake up very quickly after, but I did realize that whatever came to mind would actually happen or appear in the dream right after. Lately I have been reading a lot about LD, and I’ve been having LD’s more often and they last for a long time, so I should become better in controlling it, but instead, I feel I have less control. Because now I am aware of the whole concept of LD, and how it ‘works’, and when I have a LD I have simply too much information ‘laying about’… there’s beena few things I keep trying in LD’s and the first time i tried, i couldn’t do it, and so when I try it later, I always think of (even if not so obvious) the last time when I didn’t manage! It’s annoying because you’d think that the more LD’s the more progress :eek:
:smile:

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That is true.
I never had problems with flying or anything else, because I never thought:’‘Can I do it?’’ or ‘‘I don’t know whether i can do it or not, but I’m gonna try’’.I KNEW i could do it, you see, I never wondered can I do it.

All of you guys who are still trying to fly or summon, KNOW YOU CAN DO IT