Tried this technique for the past two nights while only waking up about 3 hours after going to sleep and only once each night.
The first night, I woke up and was really confused at first thinking "Why would I set my alarm so early " then I remembered what I was supposed to do, or at least some of it. I started to move my fingers just a little bit and was thinking to wait just a bit then I’ll RC…but then I fell asleep, hehe.
Second night, I woke up thinking of what to do already and I sat up in bed to try and wake myself up just a little bit more than the night before. Tried the method again and fell asleep again before I could try anything.
I’m going to keep trying this technique, probably go to sleep a little earlier so I can wake up twice in one night. I’ll get up and walk around for just a bit to wake up ever so much so I can at least focus. I fall asleep pretty quickly when I’m tired, so I don’t think I’ll wake up too much. We’ll see what happens!
I’ve been trying to do this for a few days now but i can’t, Whenever i get up and move my fingers my mind wonders off such as a song or something random. I also find that i fall asleep quite fast. Any tips?
I have that problem when attempting general WILD. In FILD, maybe try to put all of your focus into your fingers. You won’t have to hold your focus for long, because you should jump into the dream very quickly.
question, do u have to actually move ur fingers? or imagine you are moving them?
how about the reality check? if u feel u are awake, do u have to do it with ur body? and if u are awake wouldnt it affect your relaxation state?
Actually move your fingers
Reality checks in FILD can sometimes be frustrating… I personally do physical RCs because 4/5 times I don’t know when I’ve “passed over”. Sometimes it’s really hard to stay relaxed and do them… I guess some nights if it is a real struggle, and is keeping me awake, I can just keep whichever hand is not doing the movement up by my face to do a breathing RC and not have to move as much. If that makes sense…
Hope it helped answer some of your questions
Worked! First attempt too early I guess…tried again after maybe 5 hrs of sleep, felt the vibrations ( which I have experienced once before) and had a false awakening. Dreamt my bf jumped on me in bed to tell me something he read about lucid dreaming and I told him to get off me bc I was trying to LD. Lol!! Second attempt worked and got vibrations again. Did my hand test but it was too dark in the (dream) room, did nose RC and it worked! Got out of bed and dream was very fuzzy. Stupidly closed eyes to try to get more clarity but lost dream. Next hour was poor sleep, I kept mentally waiting to do RCs even though I didn’t do the finger thing. Will try again tonight.
Update! This worked very briefly a second time. Then I had a long stretch where I kept not waking up when I should have, about six hours after falling to sleep. Last night I set my alarm to vibrate and did this technique. Worked right away, I even thought I was sitting up in bed when I did the reality check with my nose. Was a low level lucid dream but at least it lasted a few minutes. What helped me was writing down my lucid goal in my dream journal for going to bed. What is very interesting is all three lucid dreams I got from this technique took place in my room, and it looked very realistic.
Hi, I think this tech finally worked for me! I did a WBTB for a bit more than 1 hour in the morning after being woke up early by workers on the roof so I was really tired cause I went to bed very late.
So I went back to bed, I started moving my fingers lightly, but for some reasons it’s not comfortable for me to alternate between the 2 fingers so I was only moving my index. After a while I noticed it was hard to move it so I was almost not moving it, just feeling the pressure on the pillow. But first attempt fails cause when I do RC I’m still awake. So I go again, I do the exact same thing, I almost don’t move my index but then I think I just fall asleep. But here is the weird (and nice:D) part :
I wake up with the sensation of my eyes being half open. One part of my vision is very clear and realistic but another part is quite dark and blurry. But I remember that I need to do a RC because before falling back to sleep I was testing FILD and that, even tho I really woke up, it’s good to get used to doing a RC upon awakening. Also I can hear my boyfriend talking whereas he was supposed to be sleeping as well. So it really motivates me to do a RC. I pinch my noise and it works. I do it twice to make sure and cause the sensation is so strange and new (breathing with noise closed) that I want to impregnate this feeling for the next times. And so the 2nd one works as well. I’m dreaming!
So even tho I think I fell asleep during FILD, apparently it made me stay conscious enough until I reached the dream.
Maybe thinking that I was sleeping just before is part of the dream cause, as it starts with waking up, hence you gonna assume that you were sleeping just before.
What I notice overall is that every time I try a WILD technique (not necessarily combined with WBTB), it fails but sometimes after failing the “technique part” I remain conscious enough so that I remember what I was doing before and thus it makes me do a RC. If I just fell asleep normally, it would have been the same result as if I hadn’t done any technique : getting into a normal dream/sleeping for hours. Also as people said, just doing WBTB isn’t enough, it’s not a technique on its own, so I don’t think that’s the WBTB that kept me conscious the whole time. So I’d say, for me at least, WILD technique are working in some ways even when we think that it didn’t work. So I wouldn’t give up on them so fast! Hope that makes sense.
Here is the trick from founder of this trick may it work for you
Lay on your back, rest your elbows on the bed along side your body, and point your forearms towards the ceiling. Then, bring your hands together, so that your forearms form an upside down V above your body (and the arms are supporting each other’s weight). Balance your arms in the air ( it should take almost no effort to keep them up in the air while resting on each other ).
Once in that position, go to sleep. Keep in mind that you should be tired already before you try this.
Now here’s how it works… If you are able to fall asleep in this position, your arms will fall the instant you start to lose consciousness. The movement and impact of your arms on your body will cause you to wake up again (only slightly).
Hi,sorry for the late reply but i really support this method,i read thos method 3 months ago and decided to join after.I absolutely love the idea of the hand moving since it does not take much kovement,i recently am successful using MILD but will soon try HILD/FILD
" then I remembered what I was supposed to do, or at least some of it. I started to move my fingers just a little bit and was thinking to wait just a bit then I’ll RC…but then I fell asleep, hehe.