The FILD tech (was HILD) part III

Quest for Lucidity
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Last night I tried this technique, without any prior lucid dreaming experience. Went to bed at 5:15 AM (yes terrible sleeping schedule) and woke up at 10 AM. I’m always really drowsy when I wake up, but I somehow remembered why I was awake.

I was lying face down and after disabling my alarm I was too tired and drowsy to roll around on my back, so I just started the finger technique with my fingers in the air. I think it took me 3-5 seconds before I started seeing vague images and hearing sounds.

I then saw a huge yellow perfect-shaped arrow in front of me, and after waiting for a bit I remembered reading about how you need to “try and step into images” when nothing happens. So I tried really hard to move into it, I even vaguely remember trying the nose breathing RC somewhere (but can’t remember the outcome) and kept telling myself I had to get in that arrow to start my lucid dream.

The very next moment I’m wide awake in my bed and can’t move my body. Since I never got SP before I’m panicking and start screaming my lungs out, and my mother runs into my room very worried. The end.

After sleeping some more hours and waking up, the first thing I did was walk up to my mom and ask her if I woke up screaming. She said she didn’t know what i’m talking about, so the last part didn’t actually happen.

I’m pretty confused now what actually happened. Was I on the edge of lucid dreaming? Or was I just having a “normal” dream where my mind processed all the information I read the night before?

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Okay, so it didn’t go too well last night. When I woke up from the alarm, I shut it off and got back in bed and then I go blank. I think I forgot to do the finger thing so that was probably the problem. At least I’ve got loads of time to keep trying it.

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Zeal, your mother entering your room was a dream, or simply a hallucination, you get lots of those in SP. Sinse you were in SP you didn’t actually scream out loud.

You seem to have gotten close, keep trying :smile: If you get SP again, try to relax and focus on the images you see. If you end up panicking again, there is no use screaming or trying to move, that only makes things worse. If you really want to get out of SP I recommend breathing faster. After a few seconds of that you should be free. :wink:

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Hi, I was trying this method last night. I went to bed and tried to relax and then moved my fingers being careful to ot use much energy. I tried once, and dind’t work, so I waited for some time (maybe 5 mins) the tried again and while moving my fingers I saw an image with white, black and purple, forming circles and squares, I saw it for just 1 second because it was freaking scaring. My heart then started beating very fast and I had to wait to get relaxed again. (I say relax, but I was tired all the night) I thought it was something that almost never happens, so I tried again and the same thing happened. I was freaked out.

Then I decided to stop trying for the night.

What was that image I saw? Is it normal? Any suggestion?
I’ve never had a LD, so this may be the closest attempt.

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That image was HI :grin: It’s normal, and it’s also normal to freak out! :lol: There’s nothing to worry about, it’s just in your mind. Give it another try and see what happens. After you experience it a few times you’ll start getting more comfortable and it won’t scare you anymore. You can see some really cool HI and if you just stay relaxed and passively observing them they should turn into a LD!

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Hargart, I salute you!

Got my first real LD 3rd time I tried this:P
~Long post`
first time I wasn’t tired enough
same with the second

I got up with autosuggestion(ftw) at about 7:40, I got the sudden urge to not move my body and move my fingers, then I remembred, so I started counting the movements, and when I got to 5, I felt I was spinning around my bed and got thrown out real bad, I opened my eyes, and I thought I’m definately in an LD since it was kinda blurry, I did the nose RC and what do you know, I’m in.(matrix reference haha) I immediately screamed increase lucidity and it got much much more vivid, although I was having the same problem as my last LD which was I was blinking a lot kinda when you just got up after 3 hours of sleep(I slept at 2:30 am yesterday so I think I got enough sleep, not sure why that keeps happening)but it went away after a while, I got to my balcony and stood up on it, thinking “I have to fly this time”, the weather was kinda cloudy but I immediately screamed(I was like super excited by now, I think I should have woken up by then)“Make it rain!” It rained, but I wasn’t satisfied, so I screamed “MAKE IT RAIN HARDER!” bam there was this immense rain almost like a waterfall, so I decided to fly, I tried superman but I couldn’t, and I wasn’t thinking of swimming in the air, so I just jumped, but I floated to the ground, to my surprise. I saw someone and I suddenly had a knife in my hand, I stabbed him(I think I was semi-lucid? not sure why I stabbed him) and went running to some outdoors holding cells, where people are escaping because of some plague, I saw 3 “standing-out” criminals which turn out to be “~some name i can’t remember~ sisters” I kill them all(fully lucid again :spinning: )and I go to some train station where a subway was stopping, I got in I talked with someone, I asked him if he is my subconscious, he said yes :happy:, after that I asked him some random questions to which he said no before I even finished(I knew he was lieing though), after I got out at some stop, the man followed me and some little kid, whose face seemed familiar but I can’t remember it now for the life of me, We took some stairs, when I turned around that “man” became my real life friend, and he suggested we should make these kids throw themselves out the stairs, he talked to the kids, but I can’t remember what happened after that, some blackness in my mind, and then I aWaken…

tl;dr tried fild, got thrown out of “bed”, got an awesome lucid dream.

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Wow, that is amazing! I just woke up and tried it, and I sat there, and after about a minute, I felt my whole body shudder and I felt my eyes move in REM. Then my heart started beating really fast, but then the REM went away when I didn’t know what to do. Since I clearly know when I am in REM, how should I transition into the dream. It seems like I’m too conscious when the REM is happening to try to sit up and do a reality check, but if I wait too long, it goes away. Any suggestions?
I’m a newbie, and that’s by far the furthest I’ve gotten with any method, so I think that’s really cool.

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I will try this tonight. I tried it last night without falling asleep first. I fell asleep, and lost focus, but I will try this tonight and hope the results are good. Ill post back tommorow. Wish me luck :smile:!

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Welcome Muted LD! :wave: Why don’t you go and introduce yourself to the community in the big “Hi,I’m new here” topic ^^

If you lose focus, you should try to relax a little more and keep slightly more focus on the fingers wriggling.
Good luck for your next attempts! :smile:

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I’m going to try tonight. But I’m really freaking out when I read about those old hag syndrome things. Bleh I think when I feel a little weird I stress out because I really don’t want to meet an OLD HAG ! :eek:
Anyway I do really want to have a LD …
anyone got some tips?

And also: Hi i’m new.
xd

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Welcome Paranoid-Android! :wave: Introducing yourself to the community in the big “Hi,I’m new here” topic is a healthy part of your daily LD4all surf ^^

There’s no point in fearing such things, as the old hag is an illusion, just as all the rest is. People can get scared of all the weird sensations, but as long as they’re harmless, it can be exciting and even funny in a way :tongue:

Not to mention a LD is something that can be completely unrelated from the old hag and the process of falling asleep in general, you just have to realize it’s a dream while you’re in one :content:

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Okey thanks for the quick response !
And I introduced myself so thats done.

Anyway I’m gonna try FILD tonight, because I’m quite tired right now, but, I’m also gonna use my alarm for ‘late night waking up for FILD’.

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so… I tried it but I failed ! :open_mouth:

I woke up after 3 hours of sleep… I wasn’t very tired and couldn’t really get rid of the I HAVE TO GO SLEEP NOW idea…

How many hours of sleep before waking up is the best? and, how can I get rid of that idea… maybe just be very tired…?

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You can’t scream when you are in SP, so you were actually dreaming :content:

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Well Paranoid-Android, it was a good thing to got back to sleep as fast as possible, you could have just chained (aka DEILD)|
Look into our Knowledge base to know more, it’s the perfect tech for quick wakeups :content:

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I had a go at this technique the other night. It wasn’t a success. :sad:

Went to bed at 12 am and set my alarm for 4am. Woke up and tried drumming my fingers after feeling really tired and relaxed. I tried three times before giving up. Twice the technique almost worked. I could feel myself drifting towards sleep, then I would realize what was happening and “jolt” wide awake again (probably too excited that it was working).
After this I couldn’t fall back asleep. I was gutted the next day from lack of sleep.

I will try again tonight, setting my alarm after 3 hours of sleep rather than 4.

Wish me luck! :grin:

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Well, simply feeling when you are drifting to sleep is a great step, believe it :tongue: Just keep trying and you’ll get used to the feeling and learn how to kinda “dive” into it instead of getting sucked out.

You might want to sleep 5-6 hours before you wake up, it’s usually recommended. 4 or 3 might work too, it varies from person to person. good luck

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Ok, the last night was mine first with this technique, I was using autosuggestion to woke myself after every dream, but that more looked like I was waking up after every REM cycle… I didn’t look at watch after waking up, maybe that’s the mistake, but I will check every time this night…

So about technique, no results… :happy:, but the problem was in me :happy:… I would fall asleep to fast, maybe I was too tired for that… But I will try again and again and again till I succeed.

Peace!

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Just a quick question.

When you perform the finger actions with your eyes closed and you transition into a dream. Do you appear in the dream with your eyes shut in a dream bed? May sound like a weird question but it’s like normally when i close my eyes in a dream i wake up.

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I tried this last night after I woke up around 3am. when I did I reality check (pinching my nose shut and breathing), I realized I was dreaming and my eyes were still closed. I was still in the bed. I think this is how it is for most people. I tried to open my eyes very gently so as to not open them in real life. I was successful.

but here’s where it gets weird. before I woke up I was having a kind of scary dream. I was in a dark room and a female ghost, crookedly hunched over and black tangled hair covering her face (like The Ring, go figure), was walking toward me. In the dream I was just tryingto stay still and ignore her.

after I woke up and did the FILD I transitioned into a dream just like I said, did a reality check and realized I was dreaming. I was still in my bed and could feel my husband beside me. as I slowly tried to open my eyes I saw my room and my husband flash like an image but they quickly dissipated into thin air. I was transported back into the room with the ghost. this time though, she was right over me, her arms around my shoulders and her face in mine. She was breathing very heavily and a noise filled my ears with a dull roar. I said “go away!” and must have said it in real life because my husband woke me up to ask if I was okay.

I’m assuming this was some sort of HI but it sure was scary!