UFO's sighted above mexico by airforce

He didn’t get it from the Bible, but from ancient Sumerian texts. Then he said the Sumerian Gods, the Anunnaki, are in fact the Nephilim from the Bible (based upon etymology or something). It would be hard to study it myself, because Sumerian is a pretty tough language to learn :wink:

Oh? Can you explain this please? The Nephilim are only mentioned in Genesis 6:4 and nowhere else. What makes them so important?

“Historical writings”? Hm, I think you’re forgetting one thing: just because we all live in a time of rational thinking, it doesn’t mean that the ancient people also used rationality to explain the world. In fact, when the book of Ezekiel was written (about 100-200BC if I’m correct), most people still had a very magical way of thinking and interpreting reality. Unlike our current rationality, these people thought the world was alive and vibrating, whereby most celestial objects for instance were personalized. They also believed that the outer world was a mirror of their inner world. Every inner action had its result on the outer world. This highly magical view was fading away, but still very present during the period when the main books of the Old Testament were written. The notion that these stories are historical writings is false a priori because this would be the explanation as seen from our current rational point of view, and not from the original, more magical point of view from the authors, which is fundamentally different from the rational one.

I would be glad too, but it would be indepth, and probably kinda long.
I am not sure if the people on this thread would really even care to hear about it. I am still new to this forum.
I could send it to you as a personal .
However I would be glad to share my findings with you.

Yes you’re probably right :smile: It would be a little too off-topic… I’m not sure either whether or not other people might be interested in this discussion. If so, then you might start the discussion in a new topic. If not, you can always send it to me as a PM, if you really don’t mind. No obligation of course :content:

Hey not a problem, I may even post it on a forum I am starting in Yahoo groups.
I have somethings to do today , I may get around to writing it up this evening.
It’s no problem at all ; I get great enjoyment out of sharing knowledge. My wife has told me several times that I should have been a teacher.

By the way, in all reality, the people of those days were intellegent people. Sure they didn’t have the knowledge in science we do today, but look at the heart and soul they put into their crafts. The tools they developed and used. They knew enough of the basics to survive. They really were no different than we are today, except through technology.
However I wonder how many of us today would have the ability to survive as they did. What if something happened to where we lost electrical power; lets say for just a month. It would be horrific. Think of the chaos.
We live in world of convienence. Think about it
As far as magic goes. I still see things as magical. I am still amazed at television, and I worked with electronics since I was a child. I consider these damn processors in computers magical.
I am in awe when I consider the works of God from the universe on down to the human mind. That within ourselves we are all directly linked to our universe and solar system. Once we loose the magic of seeing that, then to me life would have no meaning or purpose.
Sorry … I get deep sometimes.
Ok , I gotta git goin. Send you that info later…

Hehe thx :content:

I agree that they were highly intelligent, and probably much more intuitive than we are nowadays. But the way they looked at the world was still quite different than ours. You see, through the millenia, humans as a species have evolved through a whole spectrum of consciousness. The major stages were pre-archaic, archaic, magical, mythical and rational-existential nowadays. Ofcourse there are lots of variations, hence the spectrum. This doesn’t mean however that the prior stages are inferior to the higher ones: every stage has its own inherent truths and a unique perspective to life and reality. But it means that we have embraced and transcended the lower stages. So I think they were not only different in comparison with us through technology, but also through philosophy of life.
But as I said, this is about the stages of the average human consciousness. Many people are still lingering in lower stadia (this doesn’t have to be a bad thing though, as you already explained by the survival skills of the Ancient Ones), while others have already climbed up to the outer edges of the spectrum, the mystical mind.

Exactly! Then you also understand why it is so hard to explain myths from a rational point of view. It’s like the shape of clouds: magical people may see the most amazing stories in the clouds. When rational people look at clouds, they may see only… vague figures. They don’t understand the shaman with his great cloud stories. And because of the difference in perspective, the rational scientist is only able to explain these fantastic stories from his own perspective, with the vague-figures-clouds. Ofcourse this gives a very distorted view.
Different world views (for instance magical-rational/existential as in your case) are very hard to unite. If the shaman who saw all these great cloud stories, should suddenly see as a rational scientist, I can understand he would get pretty depressed :smile:
But again, this is all highly generalized.

I find it amusing how so many people think that UFO means the same as Alien Space Craft. UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, which can be anything, terestrial or otherwise, which you don’t know what it is. Once you know what it is, it’s no longer a UFO it is an Identified Flying Object

Once something is proven to definately be alien spacecraft, it’s no longer a UFO.

So those pictures, they are definately UFOs, because nobody has identified 100% what they are.

I agree. These days, though, you might as well forget what it stands for and just assume people mean Alien Spacecraft. Everything will make a lot more sense when you do (ironically).