voodoo dream dolls

I get what you’re saying Bruno, but if that’s art, then anything can be art.

You’re stretching the definition of art to include almost anything, and I think, effectively making real art less meaningful.

Baking a cake with the intention of satisfying your hunger is an art. Giving a speech to a crowd of people, with the intention of sparking a revolution, is art.

You have to draw the line somewhere, because it, (art) just gets absurd and meaningless at this point.

@ Don: Also, what do you think prayer is?

It’s a magical act.

You’re petitioning God, (the universe), to manifest something in the physical.

I don’t “have to” draw a line. Besides, the Proper Definion Police would never catch me anyway. :wink: Incidentally, what’s your proper definition of Art?

Wtf is ‘real’ art, James?

And um, yeah. Those things can be art, but in order for that to happen, you need someone to decide that it is art, and then it needs some form of presentation.

Duchamp’s ‘Fountain’ would have just been a urinal if he hadn’t slapped it down in a museum.

Let’s not and say we did.

I was thinking more in the direction of stage arts, but that works too. :lol:

I’d never claim that hanging dolls upside down is museum material. :smile: It’s more like a doodle. I do believe magic has its own fine arts, it’s moments of museum-material creation. But like any other art, it’s fair to assume that in terms of quantity alone, it’s dominated by lazy doodles.

My point exactly. :yes:

I like to take art a little more seriously.

That is all.

You’ve just readed my mind.

There you go WCH - proof of telepathy!!! :tongue:

About the art and magick thing - I dont really have the time to articulate very nicely what I want to say - but its more about the intuitive personal process that goes into making art.