WBTB issues and falling asleep

So whenever I try to use WBTB, I am never able to fall asleep. It will literally take me an hour or two to get back to sleep. My main problem is that once I am awake for more than a minute or two, it becomes hard to fall asleep. I was just wondering how many others have this issue. Am I alone on this issue? Have you found a way to fall asleep quicker after doing a WBTB?

Adjust the amount of time awake. The trick is to find the right time so you aren’t too awake and aren’t too sleepy. It varies a lot for each person, so if you are too awake with only that little time, you might want to stay up less! Maybe just wake up and turn off your alarm (if you’re using one) and go straight back to sleep which using whatever technique you want.

I actually have the same issue and I go back to sleep immediately, like mattias suggested. I don’t usually use MILD then because the thought keeps me awake, but it makes the dreams vivid enough to help with DILD, WILD or MILD (when done when I first went to sleep).

That’s what I normally do in the middle of the night when I perform SSILD. I’ve found that technique helps me to fall asleep. I don’t set an alarm, but I always notice myself wake up a couple times during the night, and so I sometimes will use SSILD before allowing myself to fall asleep again. Thanks for the advice.

I have the opposite problem…I always fall asleep before I can use any techniques! I agree with the others. Stay up for a shorter amount of time, or go back to sleep immediately.

I don’t know, but it seems to me that WBTB isn’t for you. I’m not an expert, and I never had a lucid dream, but it seems to me the point or WBTB is that you’ll fall asleep faster, allowing you to MILD/WILD/SSILD more effectively. If you have trouble asleep doing WBTB, then that kills the whole purpose.

@object I do not agree with you, I think that they should keep trying WBTB because it makes almost every other tech way more effective, and the purpose of WBTB is that when you fall asleep you to directly into REM without deep sleep or n-REM, not that you fall asleep faster.

So keepp trying and good luck!