what exactely ....???

here’s what i do when i try to get lucid
but almost every time in vain
:cry:
could u plz suggest some better ways
or corrections
they are always welcome
:wiske:
step1
i relax
step2
i try to stay concious
(i try repeating “i am LDing 1”,“i am LDing 2”,…)
step 3
i try to see colors and images but all i can see is
black(with little discoloration in gray) that is after(becoz) i close my eyelids
step 4
i eventually fall asleep

this way i got lucid twice

any corrections

liza

When you see the HI - you should know your logical mind is shutting down. This is the time to keep your goal in focus. Try to keep your body relaxed. The keyword here is: PASSIVE OBSERVATION.
Passively observe the imagery. Don’t get drawn into it. Keep a cool mind.
And - don’t give up! Thats the hardest part. Remember - when you feel hopeless, its the closest you’ve got. Wait for the vibrations. Or try to call them.
It takes practice. But it works.
Best of luck!

:confused:
what do u mean by vibrations?
and i dont c any images
that my friend, is the problem.
:cry:
need ur help
u seem to b very good at this
how do you do it??
:help:
liza

The thing is that you fall asleep so you don’t remember the HI. You drift off. It seems you just need to stay more focused. Remember you are supposed to stay conscious until you are dreaming. The step three should not be a step at all. It should just be an effect of falling asleep. You can devote a little attention to seeing images, but do not try to force them. Just stay aware. And keep counting until you know you are dreaming.
The vibrations are Hypnogogic hallucinations that occur when you are very close to dreaming so when you feel them, if you in fact do feel them, not everybody does, you know you are almost there or there already.
But as I previously stated, work on staying aware, let images come and go if they do. Not everybody sees any images so don’t worry if you don’t. They are not the goal here right?

thanks i’ll try
but i am kinda loosing hope
may be i should give it a rest for a while
liza

thanx krakatoa
now i am perfectly clear with the image and color thing
i’ve had it b4 once i saw different colors like liquid it is hard to explain but is what dreams r made of , i mean is that what u were talking about?

what r viabrations?
do u actually feel like movements in ur eye
i had it once when i was trying WILD
my eyes were shut and i could feel my eyeball moving rapidly, i slowly reached out and touced my eyes
anad then the most horrible thing happned
i couldn’t feel any such movements for the whole week
now i think i’m back
liza
ps- is that what u mean by vibrations