i have been failing at WILD, and i’m thinking on trying now MILD because maybe WILD is not for me, i only get to hallucinations but just cant enter the dream and it just causes me bad insomia 
so i need to hear why do you rather WILD to MILD or MILD to WILD? 
I use MILD when I go to sleep and if I’m tired enough for a nap I’ll try to WILD. I don’t do WILD to sleep because it keeps me awake, and I haven’t had any real success in inducing an LD with WILD, whereas I had my first intentional lucid dream with MILD, so I’m guessing that’s what works for me.
The furthest I’ve ever gotten with WILD is the hypnagogic noises and vibrations, after that my eyes start twitching and that gets me fully aware again
Right now I’m customizing my Mild technique. Figuring out exactly what works for me; different mantra’s, etc. I do this because I prefer the notion of increasing likelyhood of dild"s compared to relying on the misonception of the intant gratification people seem to think wild induces. I want to get to the point of making multiple lucid dreams possible in a night, or succeed in chaining. During the weekend where I can sleep till whenever, ill practice wild but always combined with other tech’s (mild, cald, what have you). I also wbtb on the weekend, since I can’t afford to during the week with work and everything.
@myechta_rukovodstva What do you think about WILD then? I like WILD because I feel like I am taking an active role in inducing an LD not hoping that it will happen. Im not trying to put you on the spot, I just want to understand cuz im kinda new at this.
thanks,
Nice way to put it 
Not directed at me, I know, but I’ll put in my 2 cents anyway 
I know what you mean about active roll, and WILD sure is an interesting experience, but it’s a lot harder to master than most other techniques (of course this depends a lot on the person). It’s usually a lot better to start out with other techs such as MILD and them try WILD more seriously once you’ve had a few LD’s. I usually use MILD and it works great for me (although weekends and WBTB help a lot). I still get WILD’s now and then, but they are mostly accidental. I suddenly find myself in the right state and think “ok, WILD!”, but trying from the start… I don’t think I’ve had many WILD’s like that, if any! (and I’ve had 600+ LD’s (not meaning to brag or anything xD, just so you can get an idea of percentage), I’d say that maybe 1 in every 20 LD’s of mine are WILD and that’s a weird mixture of WILD/DEILD/MILD that’s hard to classify…)
So, uhm, yeah. WILD per se, that is, lying in bed → WILD → LD without any loss of consciousness can be really hard for poor mortals as ourselves who aren’t master meditators 
And remember, you’ll have the rest of your life to learn to WILD (well, to LD as well, I guess!), so no hurry in learning the “cool” WILD technique 
Oh, and many people believe WILD can give you LD’s at will and that’s true and all, but that applies to any other technique as well.
Thanks mattias,
that makes a lot of sense. and If you dont mind I have another question. Do you think that I should continue trying to learn WILD right now or that I would be more succesful trying to WBTB and MILD or DEILD or something else.
Hey!
you never tried WBTB? I’m a beginner too but i get lots of LD’s with WBTB. AND of course a dream journal. Without dream journal iss it for me almost impossible, with a dream journal your can see your progress and the more you can remember the more chance you have to lucid dream. And write, record doesnt help at all.
Good luck! Your LD is coming soon!
PS: Only try WBTB in the weekend!
Ive tried WBTB before but ive never had an LD before. I was just asking if I should wait to try and get one with WILD until I am succesful with something else. and If you think I should try something else to get my first LD what should I try.
Good ol’ mr. Mattias put my point in a nutshell 
it doesn’t apply to people specifically, but a large beginner concensus is that wild Is a wonder-tech that leads to people flooding the forum with questions why it isn’t working if you can do it with success, that’s wonderful 
but there seem to be particularely more nuances and requires more finesse with wild. I write more in detail in this forum in a topic titled “opinion: wild over-hyped”. Sorry I can"t provide a link, posting this on my phone
P.s. Wbtb is a good chance-booster and makes wild more practical. Your latter sleep cycles have longer and more frequent r.e.m. Periods increasing your odds.
Thank you myechta,
Thanks for the topic to, there was a lot of good info in there. now that I have read that I think that I am going to try to do both. MILD before I go to bed, then WBTB and WILD or just try DEILD instead of WBTB and WILD.
Try what works best for you. I use WILD, since it’s a lot more reliable than DILDs/MILD, for me at least.
I’ve been practicing it for a month, and got a couple of LDs about it. It takes three things, Obsession, determination and stubbornness.
You know actually I think your right kache,
I tried MILD last night and I always feel like I should be doing more. so im gunna keep trying to WILD for now and see how it goes, If it doesnt work ill try another tech. not to disrespect you guys or anything im just going to find out for myself(maybe the hard way ) what works for me.
IMHO that’s the best aproach 
Not ignoring what people say, but experimenting yourself. As myechta_rukovodstva said, “there seem to be particularely more nuances and requires more finesse with wild” and most of these nuances can’t be put into words since they are so… I don’t know. You just need to experience some things and investigate to learn. Like learning how to swim, reading about what you’re supposed to do with your arms and legs will only help to an extent. If you only read about it and they jump in a pool you probably won’t just swim away, right? You need to get in the water and feel it.
Anyway, I don’t like to recommend any beginner NOT to try WILD, as there are people who get it easier (plus just trying is new experience!), but in general I’d advise not to focus only on WILD. The problem is people thinking they NEED to WILD and if they don’t they get frustrated and frustration sucks. My suggestion is try WILD every now and then when you feel like it, but always mix in something else (as WBTB + MILD + WILD is a great mix).
I have never successfully WILD, it is too hard for me, usually my first dream of the night is quite short so not worth the LD anyway. I suggest using MILD. Try it after about 2 dreams (~3 1/2 hours of sleep) when your REM cycles are extended. Just think about the last dream you had, set your intention to REALITY CHECK inside the next conscious state (hopefully your dream) and being the last thing you remeberd it wil hopefully work out!
Childmind, that’s a very good synopsis of the mild technique
And I wholeheartedly agree with Mattias. Training yourself to lucid dream, in my opinion, is 1 parts theory, to 1 part practice. Mix with experience and dash in some flavorful creativity to taste.
If you’re ok with doing it, then you should explore every technique once your recall is good, and you fill your brain with as much knowledge and theory of the said technique until you know the basics inside out. And when new ones come out, give 'em a try as well. You’ll eventually not only find a method of choice, but also conform each tech to fit the way that let’s you succeed the most. And fitting each tech to work for you; customizing all the details that your mind and body can conform with… That, my friend, is the hardest yet most rewarding part of the learning process.