This actually happens to me more when I don’t try WILD than when I don’t. This has been happening to me for years upon years and I don’t know what it means. When I think about it, I don’t think it has ever happened to me when I was doing WILD.
I’m laying in bed, and I go into a dream, partially conscious of what is happening. These are usually very short. It may also happen several times a night. The problem is when I move in the dream sometimes, my real world body moves as well. For example, if I trip over a pole in a dream, my knee might jerk. Another example is in the dream I am playing scales on the piano and then my RL fingers move. This immediately and totally wakes me up from the dream.
I was wondering what this is called and if it is anything special.
I don’t know what it’s called, but it’s annoying and has happened to me, too. If you so much as think about your RL body, you’ll start to notice it touching the bed or whatever, and it distracts you from the fake sensory input of the dream, which wakes you.
That is strange. What I am curious about is how do you know? When I WILD once I am in a dream I have no awareness of my real body. I am wondering if you might be in more of a half sleep?
I don’t really think is a WILD sensation; it happens pretty much every night. I fall asleep into a dream, but when I attempt to gain any higher level of awareness, I wake up. Also the whole RL body doing what my astral body does. I guess you could call it a half sleep. Over the years before I knew about LD, I figured out to just let the psuedo-dream take its course and not try to think or interrupt it or I’ll wake up.
Does this happen as you are going to sleep or in the dream?
If it is happening as you go to sleep that could be part of your problem. A lot of people seem to think that with WILD you stay completely alert as you fall asleep. But really all you want is to maintain a very slight bit of awareness. Any more and you will either wake up or get stuck in the hynogia. Next time try and let go of your awareness a little at a time and see what happens.
Good luck and happy dreaming.
This happens totally and completely independently of WILD. (shoulda made a different name for my thread)
Take this for example: I am trying to go sleep and my thoughts are just kind of random. Then I start to dream. These are as visually real as actual dreams but are not nearly as random and do not typically have any unrealistic things in them. What happens in the dream is usually stuff that happens in real life. I can’t name a specific example right now because I have so many of them nor do I record them in my dream journal, as I consider them of little importance. In the pseudo-dream, I have a very, very low level of conscious awareness, and whenever I try to become more aware, I wake up. My RL body also causes me to wake up. What I wonder is if I could just think “Reality Check” in my low level of consciousness and maybe a reality check would happen and I would become lucid? I’ll have to try that out tonight.
I think you are going into NREM dreams…
what you need to do is just maybe try and get aware but DON’T MOVE?
Or does just the awareness itself make you jolt awake?
if you are deep enough the awareness shouldn’t be a problem, how long are you usually in a dream for before you get that problem happening?
As for you moving on you bed, are you POSITIVE that you aren’t just “dreaming” that you are moving on your bed? It’s very hard to ever know… but that happened to me last night.
I was caught between a dream, hypnagogia within a dream, normal hypnagogia, and being awake, I thought for sure I opened my eyes and saw my hand moving on the bed like it was trying to grab the papers I was seeing, and yet, it could have easily just been an FA.
I have no way to tell what it was, do you ever RC if you think you were in a dream but then you really moved, and it “woke you up?” that would be beneficial.
Now assuming you actually did move, well… I’m not sure what to tell you, what I did was I forgot about my moving hand, and I thought “if i can grab the paper and feel it, and t hen move in the dream, it must mean I’d be paralyzed by then.” so that’s what I did… I saw the paper again, and I let it come to my field of vision… i slowly picked it up and read it, and eventually I was lucid and in a dream.
You have to take them really carefully paced and you’ll just kind of smoothly transition into a dream where you clearly have a dream body, and not your real body.
This doesn’t happen to me a lot though, it’s rare that I ever consciously interface with HI, so i can’t really help you too much.
If you are in HI I think you would be easily hypnotizable though, say to yourself, “my body is paralyzed, I will enter these images and be lucid” over and over, it might not take but saying it once to be there.
I said the word “sleep paralysis” while in hypnagogics (sort of) last night and BAM I was there, I didn’t even intend to be, I was just telling a girl a test answer (which happened to be sleep paralysis)
I think my subconscious was helping me get lucid on that one, which was really nice of it.
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Anyway, I personally agree with holy reality in that you may be having NREM dreams. The other thing could be that your body hasn’t entered into SP when you start doing your dream activities.