Hello, I have a problem and I want to ask you for help.
Every time I go to bed and try WILD, I get to a part when I feel a little numb and I see those colorful spots in my head, but when I feel some kind of pressure, my breath starts to be uncontrollable, faster and deeper, which may be the reason for the following stuff. I then stop seeing those colors, don’t feel any marks of SP and usually don’t progress anymore, I even layed in my bed for cca 45 minutes after that interruption and nothing happened, no sounds, no feelings, I just saw the black eyelids. If you could answer, please do, I am trying to LD for a year and all I got was few meaningless 3-second flashes of slight conciousness in my dreams. But I will never lose my will and I will keep trying, that’s for sure!
You have to make a transition from waking state into dream state. It’s that simple, yet the process itself is not until you experiment a lot and find your way to make a transition.
Keep in mind, if you wanna dream and enter REM sleep you need to fall asleep eventually so if you are awake the whole time and not letting yourself to fall asleep you will not be able to dream. So you need to fall asleep.
When? Well that’s completely another subject. I would suggest when you start to feel “weird” sensations like: floating, sinking, buzzing sound in your ears, vibrations and such then let yourself fall asleep but gradually, hold on to your consciousness and eventually let it go.
In my case this “letting go” process lasts only a few seconds… Good luck!
Well the problem is that I don’t get to the sounds, floating or sinking, I just sometimes feel like my head was rotated in some weird way x). By the way, when I see those colors on my eyelids, should I just wait for the sounds and other stuff with my consciousness being steady and THEN, after they come let myself fall asleep ?
another question: Should I basically try to sleep in a uncomfortable position ( laying on my back ) ? Beacuse I did it so many times, it doesn’t really feel uncomfortable to me
I’ve been doing LD’ing for almost 3 years and have tried out most techniques. With Wild, recently I had exactly the same problem as you. I would wait for weird things to happen when I felt my body going numb (seldomly SP, just numbness) but then my breathing would indeed get all fucked up and eventually I would “wake up” from the whole numb state and I the only thing I saw was blackness.
So I tried to break this ever occuring cycle by “letting go” as soon as I felt numb and my breathing got heavy. What happens then for me is that I fall asleep without any SP or HI - not as far as I remember - but twice an LD followed and in any other case the dreams were all really close to LD’ing.
In short, experiment with WILD. I get the best results with techniques that are not exactly by the book, but do fit my sleeping pattern.
Also, I always sleep on my back, basically because I think visually a lot and the images in my head are annoyingly rotated when I lie on my side So I do the same during WILD.
The problem with WILD and the subject of dreams is that they are to personal experiences to say what will and will not happen in the process.
The best advice one can give you is to experiment and experiment a lot. Following step by step guides will help you but usually it will lead you to the point where there will not be any progress. Similar to your situation.
I had the same type of the problem. I would do everything like suggested and then I would always hit the same “wall” of problem and from that point nothing happen. Then I start to take illogical steps(illogical comparing them to the guides) but logical to me and my way…
So when colors come try various things, let yourself to fall asleep, try to extend the colors into images, let them develop on their own, whatever just experiment.
Also about the sleeping position, whatever feels the most comfortable because you wanna sleep, right? Maybe less comfortable position just for the time when you have problem maintaining consciousness on the level that is needed for not falling asleep!
Alright, thank you both, I am gonna try it tonight and eventually tell you if it worked Oh and few more questions, do you think it is possible to improve your real life skills like playing a musical instrument or some sport discipline by doing it in lucid dream ? It seems really interesting to me. And I wanted to ask, can the wake induced lucid dream take my whole night ? Or can it at least feel like it lasts very long ? I don’t want to waste my time in lucid dream, because I have so much to try, I am really excited about it
For a best result you need to follow guides and need to more focus on your dream… i think more practice will help you to achieve it these are the common problem which you have mentioned many lucid dreamer faced it but if you follow guideline properly and try to more focusing on your dreams then it will be easy to get that…
Experiments were done and it was proven that one can improve his waking skills by doing them in dream. How much improvement? Well it varies a lot from person to person and sometimes it’s not noticeable at all.
Theoretically if you look at the REM sleep and if you rely on that, that you mostly dream in REM sleep then your dream can last only as long as the REM sleep lasts. That’s is around 45 minutes at the end of the sleep cycle when REM sleep is longest. If you say you remember NREM dreams then again you might have a LD in NREM but still the dream will be ended and continued because when REM cycle ends NREM begins. So the point is your dream can be long as you cycle is.
The impression or to better say perception/illusion of how long the dream was is another subject. Don’t be disappointed if you think that 45 minutes tops is a short amount of time to dream. Sometimes I had dreams that lasted only a few minutes in waking life but in dream time it was long, detailed, vivid and real life like.
So don’t worry about the amount of the time you spent dreaming, rather put that effort in making those dreams more vivid, real life like, detailed…
Also very important always have goals. Plan them out before you go to sleep, feel motivated about it like you are now, try to imagine how it would feel to complete those goals/tasks and this is what will keep you going and DJ is “must have”.
This morning I had a lucid dream. However, it wa really short, I noticed something weird in my dream and thus I looked at my hands. In that moment I realized I had only 4 fingers and I became conscious, but then my vision started to become blurry and grey, which ended by me waking up.This is maybe fifth time this happened to me, I just wonder, is it because I was so excited ? And if so, how can I help myself the next time ?
There isn’t really much that you can do because the dream fades before you are able to do anything…
With time this will stop, your excitement want be the issue any more and then you can start connecting with the dream, rubbing your hands, spinning, touching whatever you see in a dream and such things…
Oh, I actually forgot to say I was spinning in that dream and I was feeling my hands, but it didn’t really help me. Well, hopefully, it will stop happening soon
