DIfferences beween OBE and AP?

well, i have that too but it’s been enhancing ever since i started enhancing my DR, last night i got my record of remembering at least half the story of TWO dreams:D
i’m so happy:p
the first one is where i was insode my school, but it was different, i machine(like soda or candy machine) was added and the other 2 were changed, and 1 was a fries vending machine(?:P)
but i wasn’t looking for a fries vending machine, i was looking for a SODA vending machine, i wanted to hack one:p
and i had to do some quest inside my school, but it seemed in connection with the second dream tho i know it was not the same one, cos in the second dream, i(together with an IRL friend of mine(he was a DC tho) got picked picked up by his mother, but he didn’t come and i went looking for him, i found him and we left the school

oh, i may remember another one from that day, it was sone sort of a quest but half of it could only be done when you succeeded the first level:P i just failed that level:P
can’t remember much more

and can you tell me like a meditation or some site with how to do an AP? i’d love to try that once:P

[color=green]Hi sirus :smile:

This link is from the Lucid Crossroads. And it gives information on lucid dreaming and techniques :smile: . I personally havent tried it coz im scared of leaving my body. I keep thinking i will die. Until i can overcome this, im not going near it :smile:[/color]

Jaxal trust me on this, Ive done it many times and I feel quite alive :razz:. It’s not what it seems to be!

This is for you Jaxal with lot of respect;
https://www.psychwww.com/asc/dreamfaq/node32.html

The document is telling you about dreaming not necesary ocurring in REM but it could happen also that dreams could begin right in the beginning and they are telling that dreaming occurs in the forebrain too.

Although it doens’t relat to the topic but they tell you about everybody dreaming at the beginning of it; if that’s not enough info i can get more urls.

well, i’m not afraid of leaving my body, it seems like a great experience, that’s why i’m gonna try until i succeed:P i’ll try to do the reading AP in the afternoon, i’ll lie down on a mattras(?), read and keep reading the same page inside my head with closed eyes, it’s freaky, does your physical body go into SP then? cos it’d be strange to move with your physical body at the same time, they say you can reach the lucid crossroads in this way:D i wanna AP!!!:stuck_out_tongue:

[color=green]Hi CranberryDude

Can you give me the other articles you have on this?[/color]

do you know anny other ways, or a way to achieve a “zen state of mind”?

[color=green]Hi sirius

I do actually. I did some research on it a year ago. I will dig them out for you :smile:

Damn i just noticed i was calling Shinata of Wu , cranberrydude :wallhit: . Sorry shinata i meant to address you in both my last posts.[/color]

hehe, only last post tho:p just noticed:P

hey jaxal, i got a site about AP, they reffer to it as OOBE tho: jonasridgeway.com/tech1.html
srry, i had astral pulse in here but it’s a crappy site

[color=green]Hu sirius

Thanks for the link sirius :smile: Frankly it boggles me as to why they address AP as OBE/OOBE . The names are self explainatory. Reading from the first few lines, they say we AP every night. This is obviously wrong, i believe. But tell me sirius, what in that article do u agree with?

Hmmm what is going on here? In my last replay i saw Shinata of Wu making the last 2 posts. Now its cranberrydude again. :eh: [/color]

Jaxal are you tired or something? cuz you’re seeing me as Shinata of Wu? :eh:

anyway here is a forum discussing that subject:
uncommonforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=917

ehh, i don’t completely agree with them but it might be true wat they say at a certain point. they mention that we leave our body every night, that could be true, but they allso say you need to let go of 3 fears, i’ll mention which later on

[color=green]Hi Sirius and CranberryDude[/color]

[color=green]I can swear it was Shinata of Wu and not you lolll. Coz i double checked. I dont know how to explain it.

As for the article, i am quite skeptical of it. Everybody dreams. They just dont remember it. WEll, isnt it possble even slightly that we dont remember becoz we didnt dream? In anycase, I am still considering this. Here is a link outlining a few cases of loss of dreaming

apsa.org/pubinfo/remqa.htm

Hi Sirius

Yea if they will take OBE and AP to be the same thing, then i disagree with whatever they have to say about it. Those two things are simply not the same. I may and may not be wrong. But from the research i have done, i see it as a completely different thing. Also, read the article Xetrov provided for me. It is very interesting and useful. Altho it dont specifically deals with AP and OBE together, you might find it quite useful to have an understanding. :smile:[/color]

Jaxal what i read on that article isn’t really related. But they talk about the loss of dreaming and is due to brain damage. So the only case of ppl lacking dream would be that. Although i may not be completely right.

well, the only thing i’ve ever read it’s completely true that only ppl with brain damage no longer dream, but i don’t think it is, if they don’t dream they’d get nuts within a week, cos in REM-sleep you store your memories and if you don’t for too long you’ll get nuts

Well maybe they dream but they cannot notice the images for some visual reason sirius.

yea, but that allso straightens out jaxal’s problem, i have it too, my mind’s just too unaware to realise that i’m dreaming so, well, i’ll try AP-ing again

Streghtens out jaxal’s problem in what way?