Jacobite, if I have understood correctly, your WILD attempt at evening led to nothing whereas your attempt at 2:44 PM was more than fructuous?
If it indeed was, I think that you have quite understood that practicing WILD at evening is totally pointless given that one must wait for more than one hour to get to REM sleep.
So my advice would be : do not practice WILD at evening. I cannot be clearer ^^
jsf, were you practicing WILD at evening?
Quick question: Do you keep doing your counting exercise during all the HI/SP?
Yep, that was probably what I was doing wrong! Oddly it did feel like I was getting somewhere for a bit - at any rate it didn’t feel like anything I’d experienced before.
Thanks for hint.
Hi all,
I’ve been interested in LDs for a while now and have recently been trying to learn the WILD technique. I can remember having LDs in the past (although not recently) and would love to be able to induce them at will. However I would like to get some advice before going any further. Firstly a question: can an LD be induced using WILD right from when I go to bed at night, or do I have to wake up during the night and do it then in order to enter REM?
Now I’d like to share my experiences thus far - last night being a perfect example. I laid down and after a while began to feel my body going numb and tingly and could no longer feel my bed and sheets. I’m not sure if I entered SP or not as I was still able to move somewhat (albeit slugishly and with much concentration). A short time later I started to experience HI. For me it was swirling, pulsating colours and lines, and sometimes a bright ambient light covering my vision. At times it would also feel as if I was falling into my bed or as if my body was flattening itself out and my vision and feeling of gravity would sort of pulsate. I also saw a few partly formed images at times, although only VERY faintly. I tried ‘swimming’ towards them but they just seemed to get further and further away until finally they disappeared. This process repeated itself quite a number of times, but I was never able to get any further and kept ‘waking up’ (although I was never actually asleep) and losing the HI. Are there any tips to prevent this ‘waking up,’ and also what is the best way to progress past the HI?
Eventually I gave up for the night and decided to just go to sleep normally. Oddly, for the rest of the night I had a number of unusually vivid dreams and would wake immediately after each one. This happened about 4 times and each time I could recall the dream in complete detail. Are these the times when I should try practicing WILD?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
It’s advised to practice WILD after at least 4.5/6 hours of sleep. The reason for that being we have longer periods of REM-sleep in the morning.
You were not in sleep paralyses since you could move. Where in sleep paralysis, one cannot move at all.
You could combine WBTB with WILD for the same reason I stated above.
After 4.5/6 hours of sleep, nREM-sleep is nonexistant - REM-sleep is on the other hand abundant. So, you want to practice WILD at these times.
When I try to perform a WILD, I see patches of blue swirling around. Is this my HI or just something else?
You need to be able to flow passively without becoming too focused on the HI or SP otherwise you’ll either react to what you are feeling. Continuing you technique should help you do this.
It seems there are two forms of HI, swirling colours and very vivid images. What you describe certainly sounds like one kind of HI. I usually get the swirling colours before the vivid images. I believe it is showing you are on the way to WILDing. 
Is it normal to have this about 15 sec into it?
How long it takes depends very much on how tired you are. By the sounds of it you were very tired to get it that quick. 
It is possible, I don’t know about normal though.
I get really really bored and give up because I am too tired anyway to stop this?
its only HI if you are falling asleep and in the hypnagogic state, otherwise its just -I
imagery.
colours and abstract images that are fluid and ever changing could be said to be the energy, geometry, or framework OF dreams, however unless one sees vivid realities they are not useful for entering what we think of as a conventional dream
though the entire screen of images upon the eyelids can become 3 dimensional for us to “step out” and into this sea of flickering objects and colours… this is more like astral projection, and focus here upon specific areas of the body such as the brow point, crown point, throat or heart center will be more useful
whereas if you were to doze off and see a building appear, this is just a normal average dream you can be lucid in, colors are quite a bit different.
hmmm I keep falling asleep! Can’t seem to keep my mind awake by just counting. I’ll try again tomorrow morning…
Anyway it’s a fun tech to try, and at least you feel like you’re doing something!
If you aren’t already you can try WILD in conjunction with WBTB it will help decrease the time it takes you to enter the dream and seems to make it easier for most people to WILD. It seems to improve your chances when it’s combined with any technique.
The basic idea of WILD is to transition from waking to sleeping without losing awareness. You don’t have to use counting, it is only one technique to keep you aware. You could also try visualisation, or FILD to name just two alternatives. 
Good tip, thanks! Yeah I will have a go at FILD, after all I do play the piano in real life 
I have a question.
When I try to do the wild technique
i cant quite fall asleep im usually just sitting in bed for about 30 minutes and nothing happens
what am i doing wrong?
Try it in the morning. And if you still find it hard to go back to sleep, wake up earlier next time.
ok thx
Im having a problem falling asleep while doing the wild method.
I have tried it in the morning also and still no results.
[/spoiler]While triyng to wild I would relax and then i would feel vibrations and it would feel like i am sinking in my bed or swirling. I start to see somewhat bright abstract images and every once in a while a bright white circle.
But thats as far as i get. Im usually in bed for about 30 minutes.
is there a way to lay that’s better than another? (ex: stomach, back, etc.) because i lay on my side with one arm under my head. i tried WILD and i thought that SP was kicking in because my arm was very tingly, heavy, and i couldn’t move it. but after a copule minutes with nothing happening i realized that my arm felt that way because i was laying on it, and it was falling asleep! so… is there a specific position that generally works using WILD?
from my knowledge off of this website
it says it is best to lay on your back while doing the wild method