First Steps to WILD part IV (Basic WILD Q&A)

I have some questions.

  1. Isn´t relaxing supposted to make you feel numb?
  2. When I start to relax, how tired should I be? (WBTB + WILD)
  3. How not to lose conciousness?

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3. Concentrating on something (object, scene, dream, something else) / listening to music, making a small movement (but, that’s FILD if i’m right) / concentrating on your breathing.

Is there anyone who had a successful experience with using music for WILD?

Can you do WILD in the morning after waking up? I think I did it today after I woke up naturally. I can never wake up with an alarm clock, so WBTB in that sense is virtually impossible until I get a louder alarm. And I can never do it properly at night.

Drumm77, yes, you can. WBTB = Wake Back To Bed. In the morning you do all that if you are sleepy :happy:

Works for me! At least it did once :sad: I tried it this morning with no success.

Oky been trying to do wild for some time now, but the thing is that when I do I either start to itch all over my body until I give up or I get restless feed it´s so annoying :bored: . Kan anyone help me to fix this problem it´s making me crazy :grrr:

For the last week I’ve been considering actually trying to have a lucid dream (all of my lucids have been by accident so far), and I want to try WILD. The trouble is, I’ve always had ]massive trouble relaxing or falling asleep (though I’m a heavy sleeper once I do), and I know that if I lie down, I’ll just end up tossing and turning for ages to try and get comfortable like I always do. I’m also incredibly not liable to get any weird sensations or images or anything - I always go straight from being awake to sleep with nothing in between. No exceptions.

Is there any way to get around both these problems?

i dont have a problem staying awake i just have a problem getting through sp. my mind seems to just wander around random thoughts and i do go through sp and all that crap but for some reason my body ends up waking up

I keep trying WILD, I listen to a hypnotic mp3 to get me relaxed, and then the guy gives me the option of either waking up or doing WILD, so I stay hypnotized and wait for about an hour for SP, but this itch on my nose gets stronger and stronger and stronger and itchier, and eventually I have to lift up my hand to scratch it, and then I’m wide awake and sweaty all over. Suggestions anyone?

There isn’t a huge amount you can do if you are getting itches. The best advice I’ve heard is that if it is bothering you to scratch it. It may set you back a little bit, but if you get frustrated over it, it will likely affect your chances far more than quickly scratching it.

The suggestion that comes to mind, is to try using WBTB. That should make it easier to get back to sleep. The other issue doesn’t particularly sound like a problem to me. It sounds like something you have become accustomed to. Not everyone will feel everything when they try WILD and you’re probably better off focusing on staying aware then getting those sensations, since thinking, can I feel tingling in my arms, will draw your attention back to your body and reality.

Again perhaps the best thing for you to try would be WBTB, it should speed the process of falling asleep up and reduce the time your mind wanders for. Hopefully preventing you just waking up.

Hi =D I have a few question’s about HI.

  1. What’s it like? I’ve never experienced it, and I would like to know what to expect so I have an easier time staying conscious.
  2. When you experience it, is it like looking on the inside of your eyelid and seeing the imagry? Do you see it inside your mind?
  3. How long can it take to occur?

I hope I was clear =D

  1. Im guessing its different for everyone, but the basic things you see are brightly coloured circles, or shapes, dancing around your eyelids. Though you are not meant to pay these much attention as they can ruin the process.
  2. After the above their are images that appear in your minds eye, flashes of images. normally extremely random likea gerbil playing a guitar, or a sumo cooking cupcakes. These are the images you need to pay attention to.
  3. Well its different for everyone, it depends how long you normally take to fall asleep. I take about half an hour, subsequently it take me 50 minutes for it to kick in.

Lucid Dreamer Wannabe; I find that the guides to ‘count your breathing’ and ‘walk up stairs’ dont work for me, i just like you fall asleep. I think you should try the ‘walking through your house’ method. It works for me, as it is impossible to fall asleep unless you give up. Youll see what i mean in a second.

  1. Picture yourself stepping out of you bed in vivid detail, touch the walls, look in a drawer, and try to focus on whats really there.
  2. Move onto the next room and do the same. Spend no longer than 30 seconds to 1 minute in each room.
  3. continue for the whole house [you may need to plan your route] until you reach outside. [your garden, front porch] and you should be lucid.
  4. If not [which is normally the case for me] start again from scratch in your bed from your bedroom. It also helps if you use the same pattern of rooms you did before, so you get into a routine.

If anything, this helps you concentrate, because you are visualising something in your minds eye, and essentially when all the HI, vibrations and sounds start to kick in, you will enter your dream in your house. Although i cant say this has happened to me, as each time i focus on my HI and look for an object, which i dont particularly find so i dont suggest doing that :tongue:

Hope this method helps, you can PM me if you dont understand or have a question. Also a tip, when you get outside its useful to perform an RC. If you know of one that doesnt require moving your body, thats great, if not no worries dont bother doing one, as moving prolongs the entrance into a dream. :content:

Harriot x

This is it. I’m going to attempt WILD and get the lucid dream I’ve been wanting for so long. Any last minute advice?

Woah! A mod moved my topic! But, anyone have advice? ↑

I’m afraid to WILD… what can I do to stop this fear?

Ignore it? It doesn’t help if you don’t say what you’re afraid of.
I’m not afraid of it myself, but it has failed every time. And I’ve tried almost every day for about a year.

Thanks… I’ll just say to myself, when the HH comes, "It isn’t real… and if a monster is attacking me right now, I’ll never have to go to school again :happy: "

I have read in posts on this forum that it doesn’t matter if you mind is “too” awake, or rather that it can’t be. As long as the body falls asleep, but in practice doesn’t having your mind too active cause symptoms for your physical body as well. If so, wouldn’t I need to relax my mind to achieve a WILD? The only times I have come close (i think) I lost awareness completely(so I would have had a regular dream not lucid), but something, possibly HH or a “hypnagogic jerk” as someone suggested, startle be back into awareness

tkrulewich, the only way the body will know if the brain is awake is
if you move, you have to stay still.

what the body does is like a test, it makes you itch really bad at a spot
to test if your mind is awake, if you do nothing, it will think the mind is asleep
and then it will start sleep paralysis

all you need is for your body to be in full sleep paralysis and your mind to be
aware and then the WILD will start.