idea for WILD , MILD + WBTB

you know how you fall asleep while trying to MILD
and you forget what you are saying, and you can’t think coherently anymore, but aren’t going to SP or LDing yet ?

if so ,
my idea is to use a MILD mantra or affirmation of your choice ( affirmation about anything, something to improve in our life experience, etc)

and , at the point where we are not able to remember what we are thinking anymore, get up and do a WBTB for a little bit, and keep the affirmation going while we are up , then go back to bed and start again

it should let us go into SP easy

So tell your SC the idea then once you almost done get up and keep repeating it… So pretty much MILD on Steroids then + the SP lol i think i ought to try this next time i have the time so stay tuned on Wed maybe ill post how it goes if i remember.

Ah, I get it. You sort of coax your mind into falling asleep faster, which makes for a much easier time getting a WILD without having to wake up late in the night. In a worst case scenario, there is still a good chance for MILD. This could actually be good for WILD beginners and vets alike. Presence, have you considered running a test on this in the Lucid Lab?

i think so , and i think i did not really get participants,

if we aren’t able to think, remember, focus, we arenot so likely to have a WILD< so ,
if we do MILD until we forget what we were doing, then get up and refresh our minds, then go back to bed and MILD again, it should work the same way WBTB, but as the other one said “on steroids” in that, it will give us a great boost in our chances to be lucid a lot earlier, maybe even the first REM period

OTHER ideas :
breathe deeply thru the mouth making weird noises, like deliberate snoring, or deliberate whistling, making your voice sound like the wind, so you don’t lose awareness of your body

go to sleep WHISPERING your affirmation both on the inhale and exhale,

the dream yoga / gnostic site i posted in the beyond dreaming wants you to chant whil falling asleep

2 years ago i was very tired and i was chanting the krishna mantra, and when i would say raaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaa, i felt incredible

it so happen most of the things they say to chant to go out of body while falling asleep have “raaaaaaaaaa” in them
faaaaaah raaaaaaah oohhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnn
and laahhhhhhhhhh rahhhhhhhhhhhh