I challenge everyone to come up with something that’s actually impossible to do within a dream. The only limitation is that it must not interact with reality, like shared dreaming or foreseeing the physical future. Anything outside your head basically.
Remember, if you can’t do something in your dreams it doesn’t mean it cant be done. Many people struggle with reading, and most people get different numbers if they check the clock twice. But it is not impossible to read or get the same number twice from a clock. Some people have even died in their dream.
My theory is that you can dream about everything you can imagine and a little more. Even breaking the laws of logic. I have a weak memory that I once dreamed of a door being opened and closed at the same time…
Oh you’ve got to be kiddin’ me… I took the effort to write this all only to find out that once I posted it someone else had already posted the idea in 1 sentence. Anyway here’s my… elaborate idea.
See more colors then fit in our spectrum.
We humans can see a certain range of frequencies as visual light. It is known that some animals, cows for example, only have 2 different color receptors (as opposed to our human 3) and therefore can see a smaller range of colors. Logic tells me that if you were able to see a larger range of frequencies you would be able to see colors that we can’t.
But I say we humans can’t even imagine them, because our visual centrum in the brain just can’t cope with it.
So I think even your subconcious in a dream can’t come up with a new color that does not fit in our lightspectrum
I’m wanting to say I saw a new color in an ND when I was very young. That, or it was simply a FM telling me that it was a new color when it really wasn’t…
I have actually heard more than once about people seeing new colors with Astral Projection. But it was a good suggestion. I can’t recall seeing new colors in dreams.
The colors and the entire vision in my dreams are very different from the real world. I wouldn’t call them new colors, but maybe a different kind of color.
@tinkerbell:
LDing feels just as real as waking life. There’s nothing fake about that.
The only thing that no-one has proved yet is, as Rhewin and WASD explained, is interaction with the real world from a dream, and interaction with other people’s dreams. Think of this as some sort of telepathy, and you can make up your own mind about that.
It feels real and it feels awesome. I’ve never thought something like “This is boring because it isn’t real” about my dreams neither while I’m awake nor in the dream.
I can think of a couple of things that I reckon are impossible to do in a dream.
Grab one of your eyes, take it out, and turn it to face your other eye. So each one of your eyes would be looking at the other, but you’d be able to see through both at the same time. In short; change your field of vision. I also remember reading something about “360 vision” a while ago, which is kind of the same concept.
Give one of your DC’s lucidity, and lose it yourself. Your DC will then go and do whatever he/she wants in the dream, but you’ll still be there, not lucid, watching everything they do. And no, I’m not saying that your DC’s are other actual people. Can you lose lucidity at will?
Write a 10,000 word essay in the dream, hand it in, get it marked, and get the EXACT same copy back in your dream to have a look, word for word. I bet your mind can’t remember it all I wouldn’t try this one though, unless you really want to do an essay. Can you mentally remember things you would otherwise find impossible in real life?
Dream without vision. Obviously if you lack vision in WL, you’ll probably be able to, but if you’re reading this, you’ll have vision. We can dream without sound, without smell etc, but what about sight? Can you experience blindness in a dream?
The most far-fetched one; can you create a second conscious? And then can you have two different dream experiences at the same time?
Never tried that. But i have also heard of reports on 360 vision.
I’ve never tried doing it at will (why would i?). Sometimes when I have a long lucid dream the lucidity can fade and turn into a normal dream. I have read about others experiencing this too.
I guess it’s theoretically possible to remember all that… My ability to remember things is greatly reduced within the dream.
I have actually done this. My vision faded and i believed i was waking up so i started spinning around. It could feel it very strongly and i regained vision perhaps 5-10 seconds later.
I have also experienced “conscious sleep” a few times which is a term I made up. There are no feelings and no vision. I’m doubt there were any thoughts either. You are simply on the edge of awareness. I made a thread asking about this on astralviewers.com a while ago.
I’m not sure about 2 dreams at the same time. But there is a thing called The Mind Split Effect within Astral Projection. You can have 3 separate memories from the same time - Physical, Dream and Astral. Here is a video on it: youtube.com/watch?v=_Gd418QcbJ0
So I don’t think any of your points were impossible Except number 3 that probably is practically impossible.
Hmm, I guess so. I guess for number three, you could first write one word down, hand it in, get it back and see the same word. You could then do two words, then three etc. until you have 10,000. But yeah, practically speaking, pretty much impossible.
For number two, I wouldn’t do it either, but I still think it’s impossible. Because you’re trying to lose lucidity, you are already aware you are in the dream, and thus it can’t be done.
I’ll think of something for tomorrow that’s truly impossible to do. Will be something good to think about whilst sleeping, and if I get an LD tonight, maybe I’ll try some stuff
Before I move on, look at tinkerbell’s post count… 5… probably a new member… (Hmm, maybe the caption under the name gave that away?) so she probably doesn’t understand LDing quite yet.
But yes, ‘inventing’ a new color would seem an impossible task because the color receptors of our brain fire when we see things IRL the same as when were dreaming. So logic follows that because the spectrum of colors that you can see in real life have to match those that you see in a dream because the nerves that indicate colors are the exact same it would be impossible to invent a new color. But, you could probably create new shades and hues of existing colors, and if you tried to invent a new color would probably just get one of these.
WASD, the Colors section on your astral projection link sound more like visual effects than colors. And the colors they saw were probably just vibrant versions of existing colors so they seemed supernatural. Still, someone feel free to prove me wrong.
BryanG, can you imagine taking an eye out, pointing it at the other and seeing both eyes? I can so #1 is probably not impossible. And because of binocular vision it would just appear to be one eye that you see and the funky overlap of images you get if you cross your eyes. #2, not sure about giving a DC lucidity, but it’s very easy to lose lucidity, just say you’re going to have a ND and get lost in the flow. #3, yes, most likely impossible but only practice can prove it wrong. If you tried hard enough and got enough experience in the dream realm maybe you could remember a 10k essay. #4, I have. My most common dream before I got into LDing occurred seconds before I would awaken: a black expanse of nothingness. It was as if I had no vision for black, darkness, etc. is the absence of light and to not see means no light is making it to the visual cortex. #5, no idea… That’s it.
I have a weak memory that I once dreamed of a door being opened and closed at the same time…
Anyway here’s my… elaborate idea.
I wouldn’t try this one though, unless you really want to do an essay. 
Except number 3 that probably is practically impossible.