LDing Has Gotten Worse

Ok, so the first LD I had only lasted a few seconds but that’s normal right? It happened months ago and when I kept getting LD’s they kept becoming shorter and shorter. And now, I haven’t even realized when I’m dreaming in a while and when I do it instantly becomes a black screen and shoots me out of the dream. And the last time I got that black screen was a couple of months ago! I do WBTB method and I wake up and read Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge for half an hour or more and go back to bed and I kinda losing hope that I’ll ever be able to LD again! Please help! :help:

I know how you feel, I myself is facing the same problem . at first i got a few short ones but now It feels like i just lay down on the bed wait for about one hour looking at a black screen and just waking up. I’ve been trying to LD while having this by just using MILD since i don’t have any recall on my dreams so i cant write in my DJ, its just annoying now, but i think what you and i are facing is just a dry spell .hope this helps

from my personal experience, i’ve learnt that the desperation you put into lucid dreaming doesnt really bring out the intended results…instead, all you get through practicing different techniques is limited to a few lucid moments once a week or so…trust me they are far more frustrating than having no lucid dreams…you get lucid after so much effort(of a week or two) n all you can do is watch the dream collapse in a moment or two…

i suggest you take heightened curiosity in your NDs…try very hard to enhance your dream recall and to tone up the vividness…i’ve felt that once you start getting long vivid NDs you get better with your chances for LDs…its the best you could do to get out of the dry spell…

n i hope you know that stress could also be the enemy here…

If you wake up from a LD or any dream for that matter, try this method.

  1. DON’T MOVE. Make sure you stay completely still after you wake up.
  2. Go back to sleep while telling yourself that you’re dreaming.
  3. You should either return to your old dream or go into a new one.
  4. Once your in the dream, remain as calm as possible.

It sounds like WILD but its a bit different. I’m pretty sure its called DEILD.

This is true, when I had my 2nd LD (a few weeks ago) I could feel I was losing it, I knew I was waking up, I started to feel the breeze from my window and the chands of the birds in the morning, even so, I remained calm and pretty much did what fleshandbone said. I managed to get back inside the same dream, semi-lucid. It was great experience! :happy:

It sounds like you need to give lucid dreaming a break for awhile. I think you may be putting to much stress and priority on becoming lucid and that is causing you to hve unwanted results. Take a few weeks to just go to bed like normal and try and have just NDs. In august I set a high priority on trying to become lucid, doing pretty much the same thing as you. Trying to WILD and WBTB and what not. But when september came and I started school again I didn’t have time so got out of it. And just from focusing less on it, my lucid encounters have actualy skyrocketed! I had my first 2 LDs last week, and my first really vivid lengthy one last night.

I’m sure you can make some progress, just think less about making the progress.

Happy dreaming!

I would just take a break for a while. Focus on recall and such. Go on LD4all every so often but go to sleep with the intention of sleeping, NOT LDing. :content: Often times when you stop trying and then start up (a couple of weeks later) people find it easier to LD.

Alright guys, I’ll take a break. As much as it pains me to say that because everything I really want to do can only happen in my dreams. And I was only using WBTB not WILD, I don’t even fully understand that, can someone explain it? Thanks everyone!

What don’t you understand?

You can do WILD + WBTB.

There’s nothing you can do about dry spells. They happen, and they can last a long time.

I think it has a lot to do with state of mind, really. If you really wanted to, you could probably have lucid dreams nightly.

You say you want to, but do you really want to? Lucid dreaming takes discipline.

It’s not about really wanting to or not. It’s more about the amount of stress your putting on your mind. The longer you go without success the more frustrated you get and the harder you try. It’s just like exercising, if you keep exercising and pushing eventually you get tired and can’t complete the exercises the way you’d like to. You need to take a break to get back in there and lift the weights and make progress.

So just take a break, release the stress, and come back later.

I just don’t understand how WILD works and how you can mix the two, and does this mean your always supposed to combine WBTB with another method?

Oh dear, there are tons of WILD faqs and guides around, just look for them.

And yes, any technique could be combined with WBTB. You have better chances at having a lucid dream since you should be in the middle of your REM cycle if you wake up at the right time.

Thank you a bunch working class hero! :happy:
I’m probably gonna take a LD break for a week and start combining WBTB and WILD! Thanks a bunch guys!