Lucidity failure troubleshooting

Reality checks don’t work when I do them, I see that I have 12 fingers on each hand and I don’t become lucid, Any advice?

Hey there,

Reality checks have to be more than just action. We miss hundreds of weird things every time we dream. If RCs are just a mundane action you take, you’ll miss those too. They key is awareness. I suggest you read this article which discusses the important of staying aware throughout your day https://community.ld4all.com/t/the-importance-of-awareness/36662.

I remembered more of my dream and now remember that I was lucid for like 3 seconds, how do I stay lucid; I tried looking at my hands but sank back into the mindless dream state, also how do I make my dreams more clear and less like a low pixel count picture? Thanks for the help by the way.

Any advice on how to boost your dream recall when you don’t remember enough to dream journal?

Here you go
[Improving Dream Recall) Improving Dream Recall

every time I try to get into sleep paralysis I start vibrating and all my muscles spasm.
I theorize that if I can get into sleep paralysis during mid day at will I can either astral project or lucid dream on demand without problems, but I try to relax my body so that it can fall asleep and then, before sleep paralysis, my muscles spasm until I can’t stay in my bed; people say that the feeling of electricity going up your spine is normal, but is being electrocuted and flung out of your bed normal? do they just tell us it isn’t as bad as it is so we won’t give up before we have started? Is putting yourself in sleep paralysis during mid day actually possible to do when this is happening? Please tell me if you have experienced this or have a way around it because it is impossibly uncomfortable. Every time I try I have what feels like a seizure. Please help.

The muscle spasms you describe are not common. It vaguely sounds like PLMD (periodic limb movement disorder). Basically random muscle spasms in legs/arms during sleep. It can also happen while awake but it’s less common. People with it also tend to experience leg cramps and/or sleep apnea. I have it, though not particularly bad.

The only way to get a diagnosis is by doing a sleep study. Basically, go talk to your doctor.

I don’t typically use sleep paralysis to get into an LD unless I wake up in that state. I find inducing it unpleasant, and the dreams are usually no where near as stable as the ones I get naturally from within the dream.

Having said that, I do usually have my best dreams in the day. During naps my recall is much higher than over night, and it’s easier to maintain lucidity as I fall asleep. I basically daydream my way into a real dream. It can take practice, but I learned to try to focus on scenarios I am more likely to realize I am dreaming in.

How can I increase my lucidity from very very low to complete?

How can I do reality checks that work in public? All of them involve doing something odd.

I can’t be sure if this would work reliably in dreams but there was this one on this forum which involved closing one eye and seeing if you can see your nose :confused:. Another one is checking your hands to see if you have the right amount of fingers :puh: , this looks normal if you just pretend you are looking at the time :clock: or something else. You can just use the nose one and pretend you are itching it. :smile:

I try to push an index finger into my other hand or a surface, it can be done unnoticed.
You can also expect something that is only possible in dreams to happen. eg see a unicorn

In my dreams I am always in third person and can do very little unless I have a body, How can I control my dreams if I have no body to control and no hands to look at?

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To confirm you are dreaming expect to see something impossible in real life. Infact being DO (disembodied observer) is a big heads up it is a dream.
Then you can either control the dream as its producer/director or think outside the box to make it a first person dream.

Have your body arrive at scene functioning on autopilot and ‘enter it’ for example.

I got partially lucid in stage one sleep, not lucid enough though: only on the very edge of consciousness, the dreams start and end so fast in stage one but that is as far as I can get. I was probably 70% unconscious and 30% conscious, any advice on becoming more than 30% lucid? If I lay there in stage one sleep will I stay conscious through stage two and three until I hit rem? :help: :help: :help:

this might explain what I experienced a little better:
REM dream reports are typically longer, more bizarre, more perceptually vivid, more emotionally charged and more motorically animated, whereas NREM dream reports contain more thought-like mentation and representation of current concerns…
In other words, not vivid enough how can I get to REM sleep lucid dreaming? :help: :help: :help:

I don’t use WILD myself and I guess you are using this method. It is usually recommended to WILD after being asleep for 5-6 hours. Later dreams are longer plus you will enter REM faster.

I now remember some dreams I have in stage one sleep, they are half way between thoughts and dreams. I was in stage one sleep when I suddenly falling onto my bed from a height of about a foot, it felt very real and I have vague memories of this happening a few weeks ago but I somehow just forgot about it the first time it happened, it was mostly just the feeling you have when you are moving at a high speed and suddenly stop. Not scary or anything, just very weird. What happened?

I only do reality checks when I am thinking about lucid dreaming which is often in the real world but in dreams I don’t think much about lucid dreams. How can I do it without having to think of lucid dreams first? I also may have a dream inside a dream if I think about lucid dreaming while dreaming. :help: :help: :help:

Make it into a habit so it enters into your dreams too. But never do them on ‘autopilot’

From the RC FAQ in the FAQs and Tutorials…

[i]"When should I take my reality checks?
The main time you should take your reality checks is quite simply whenever you remember. However, there are a number of times where taking a reality check can prove to be very beneficial. So you could also try taking your reality checks:

  • Every time you wake up
  • Every time you’re talking or thinking about dreaming/lucid dreaming.
  • Whenever you feel afraid
  • Whenever you feel something is strange or out of place
  • Whenever you see one of your dream signs
    Remember that dreams could often reflect what is in waking life. This is something you can take advantage of. If you know there are habits or common events that can be found in your waking life, then it would be a good idea to associate reality checks with them. For example, if you always did an RC every time you see a cloud in your waking time, then there is a reasonable chance that you’ll do that RC in your dreams if you also see a cloud then. Associations like this can be very helpful when you start taking reality checks. "[/i]
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I am trying to get into a lucid dream by visualization but when I try to visualize myself in first person I feel dizzy and fall on the ground(in my visalualization) when I visualize myself in first person I cannot stand on my feet properly no matter how hard I try help me :help: :help: :help: please give advice and explain this