Well, I can not comment that, no taco bell here in Fredikstad (not that I’m sad about it)
Well, in addition to not eating at Mcdonalds and trying to tell others how shitty it really is, I’ve stopped drinking coke and pepsi.
Whenever I buy something today I buy it from the smallest manufacturer (RAther buy chocolate from a smaller norwegian producent, than that kinder chocolate, etc.)
You look just like me! I don’t eat anything produced in the USA, after I had a few classes on the School of Economics about the FDA. If only Yanks* knew what they’re given to eat… :shock:
Seriously, guys. I cannot believe you actually buy stuff which contains (through direct or indirect means) anything by Monsanto. I wouldn’t trust an orange, a tomato or milk if I lived in the US, that really sucks! 
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/me feels blue
Whats the FDA?
Food and Drug Administration
The Food & Drug Administration agency of the USA. It’s the guys who say what’s legal and what’s illegal in terms of food & drugs. And as you can imagine from what I said, they allow (in my humble opinion) way too much.
What I mean is, they treat humans like they treat animals: first they release a product, then they see what happens, and if something not really good happens, they recall the product. I won’t bother showing the numerous cases in which it applies to humans, but instead I’ll point you to a recent recall order which, as usual, was too late. And that’s why I don’t plan to ever stay in the US for long enough to have to actually eat local food.
Last time I went to a McDonalds it was not to eat and not to my choice… I was taking there some people with mind problems from my “socially useful alternative” (doing 1 year working in a mental institution instead of doing 1 year in the army as in italy they drafted until 5 years ago) as their educators thought it wasn’t susch a bad thing
I noticed some things that really gave me the creeps
1- Every Italian McDonalds shop is full with hidden messages… i.e. in the price list there were things like this
MC**** - € 2.99
MC*** - € 3.50
MCstuff- € 3.50
Smiles - free
Mcfat - € 4.20
Thing that I wouldn’t have noticed (but I bet my SC would have) if I didn’t read the whole list (asked friends who actually eat there to control in other places, they found similar things like the word “happiness” barely readable in the pattern covering the tables)
2- For the pattern… in a lot of them in some place you shouldn’t look there’s a list of things to do when a client arrives much like this one
When a client arrives:
1- SMILE
2- say “Hi, can I help You?”
3- listen to the order
4- SMILE
5- Propose special offers
6- SMILE
7- Prepare the trays
8- SMILE
9- Tell the price
10- Take the money
11- SMILE
12- Give the change
13- SMILE and say thank you and see you next time
I was wondering before what all those smiles were about…
3- A friend of mine (no statistical value, but interesting) worked in one of them for 4 years (he was thrown out by his parents when he got 17 so he really needed the money) and was employee of the month for like 3 years in a row… as the procedure is fully standardized it has nothing to do with how they treat the clients (if you aren’t smiling it means you will be fired soon), it relates to how many special offers they sell, their speed in the work
0.0 This, well. Extreme ! I mean, “travelling to the usa” kinda got longer back in the list.
RAT POISON ! If they aren’t stricter with humans food then,.
Rainstorm : that made me even more sure of it!
Hmm, maybe trying to get something (Anto MCdonalds) into the schools newspaper thingies hmm
Search the internet for “rBGH”. 
You’ll think twice before having milk again. It’s one of the single grossest, most disgusting things I’ve read about, this year. In fact, I’m not posting the details here exactly because it goes against the forum “tasteless” rule. And we can all thank Monsanto for that.
Oh, that reminds me of another reason why I don’t eat anything Yank: how can I ever be sure Monsanto didn’t put its hands on part or parts of the process of producing that food? I mean, I’m politically viscerally against Monsanto—these guys are responsible for the creation of Agent Orange and several other toxic weapons, how can I ever pay any buck to them, directly or indirectly?
For a good explanation about rBGH… there’s a really good documentary film called “The Corporation”… It talks mainly about the problems between corporation, the legal system in the USA and the effects of corporative interests on the world… interesting thing: When it came out in Italy it was soon retired from the market and the video renting shops and came back without a scene (if you rent the dvd in Italy you’ll notice how every single disk was punched not to play it)
You’ve got it all wrong.
local food is great. Small restaurants run by families in the neighborhood always have the best food at lowest prices.
it’s the big chain restaurants that have the bad food.
Like McDonalds or whatnot.
Although McDonalds is the worst.
But, where do the locals buy their ingerdients?
If they kinda for ex. buy milk with rBGH in it then we’re just as screwed, or?
(but i agree locals must be WAY better than macdonalds)
Petter’s point, precisely. When I say I don’t plan to eat the local food, I mean all of it: meat, dairy, cereals… My issue is not particularly with the big chain food guys, but with the FDA: I don’t trust it, and I don’t support it.
I could eat in a small restaurant run by a family and I could just as well eat in a McDonald’s if I knew their meat and dairy came from permaculturalist farms and that their cereal was not genetically engineered or made so as to exhaust the lands upon which it was planted.
I can have this kind of control here in Brazil, for even when something’s allowed by our “FDA”, they release extensive reports on every single aspect of the product—and since writing those reports is surrounded by a series of strong, bureaucratic measures, we can be sure they don’t omit or lie, for that would put whole groups of experts and universities in serious, serious trouble.
So say they eventually allow rBGH here in Brazil. What would happen is: the reports would go to the first page of the newspapers, and each milk box originated in an rBGH farm would have to bear a visible warning note. In the US, that doesn’t happen.
Take a look at how the FDA work, and you can tell me yourself how easy it is for a company to lie to your whole nation. It sucks.
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Sorry if anyone feels bad because of this, but
Thats america for you.
I hate the capital part of capitalism. Money is like the meaning of life. The point of having money is to make it grow.
Arggh 
BTW guys, about 11 min.s in this one they talk about rBGH.
I felt like womitting
Part 17 has more.
/me just watched the whole documentary :shock:
Awesome. Although Michael Moore’s last speech, in the very end of the documentary (which he didn’t direct, it seems) was quite embarrassing to listen to. Kind of like the ending of the Madrake (Machiavelli’s play): you watch it and you get that feeling, like, “dude!” You know? “What am I doing, why am I not doing more?”
I haven’t eaten at mcdonald’s since I stopped eating birds & mammals about 7 months ago. I tried their fish-burger, It was just a big fishstick with bread and some mayonaise.
But I used to like their “food”.
They once had a burger called McBengt, it was my favourite candy 
I find it funny, how everyone who replied here hates Mcdonalds here, and that as soon as ShaggE said he likes it, he got ‘weird looks’ if you know what I mean.
I eat Mcdonalds, and i like their food.I am slightly aware of what they do, but I don’t really care. I don’t eat too much-I get to eat Junk food once a week, and it’s usually either : KFC, Mcdonalds, Little Ceasar’s Pizza, pizza Inn, Nandos or Applebees.
I excercise all the time, and i am not overweight, nor am I unhealthy. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want and make up for it with the exercise. Round here, Mcdonalds is the most loved fast food place, though mine is KFC(Please don’t start rambling on, on how much worse KFC is). All those fast-food places are seen as some sort of reward in most Gulf Countries.
However in Syria, the funny thing is there is only one American fast-food place- KFC. The reason for this, is due to the fact that only recently has Syria accepted American products. For example, in the past, you could never find Pepsi or Coca Cola. Instead you’d find : Master Cola, Canada Dry Cola and many more. (They all tasted good). In Syria, I can find MUCH better food that tastes loads better than mcdonalds or whatever. The small restauruants in Syria are cheap, make great food and their products are a lot healthier. In Syria, no one really cares about Mcdonalds and the load. However in Gulf Countries, it’s the ‘thing’. Everyone eats MikyDs, KFC etc…
Funny thing : I was watching Supersize me in School, and as soon as it finished, literally…i went to the school shop, and bought a hamburger! 
mm…
I like KFC too.
Popcorn chicken, tasty.
Also, after watching supersize me i was hungry.
So i went to burger king
Yeah, i eat what i want, too
I’m rail skinny, my metabolism makes up for it.
Lol, can’t wait till that goes away :rolleyes:
Anyway, i don’t care what they really do, i just don’t like McDonalds…
It’s more the customer’s fault for eating the food 
Haha, I did so too 
I really loved it
Well, Wis, the thing is: I don’t like McDonald’s either way. To me, rather than a place of happiness or the hip or a reward or anything, it’s a place where you have to face a slow slow queue to order ever–same–tasting food which you’ll have to eat as fast as possible, and for which you’ll pay more than you should. So I don’t like it because, as a restaurant, it sucks.
The fact that it exploits people’s works giving them mediocre money and no perspectives, the fact that they buy their meat from questionable sources and the fact that, aesthetically, they look like a big zit in the middle of town; plus the fact that they ship “royalties” money, whatever that means, to somewhere outside of my country for such an unreasonable treatment, while I could be in a social care spot like Café Aprendiz (where not only my money will be reversed into literation projects, but the food is also better)— all those things are just the secondary reasons why I don’t like McDonald’s. 