Oh, just noticed I have an audio editer so I can edit the interview myself 
It seems to have stopped working completely. It only worked amazingly well for me the first 9 days, and now for the last 6 days it’s had no effect. Which is very surprising. It felt like it was going to work endlessly. The only small effect I had was yesterday, when I was dreaming I was eating at a classy restaurant in the middle of a complex story line. Then all of a sudden all the staff and dinning patrons started to recite the interview, taking turns to quote one sentence of the interview each. It was the part of the interview near the beginning where Stephen Laberge first defines what a lucid dream is. Everyone in the restaurant was reciting it with deep pride and joy the same way we sing our national anthems. I didn’t become lucid.
Bummer,… hehe.
The last few nights I had several similar things happening. One was: I explained to another person in detail how he would be able to haave lucid dreams. That went for quite a while till I woke up, annoyed of what possibilities I just missed.
Another thing was when I walked through a laboratory, there were some weird things going on there. At some point in that dream I thought: Fuck it, bummer this is not a dream. Otherwise I’d be lucid right now…
Several more of these stories 
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Hey Traumgänger: Hast Du das Interview editiert? Ich kann während ich das höre nie einschlafen. Wäre geil wenn ich so eine editierte Version hätte, in der der Ton lauter und wieder leiser wird.
Und soviel ich weiß gibt es in deutscher Sprache so gut wie gar nix Gutes über dieses Thema. Das einzige ist so ein Buch von Paul Tholey. Einmal bisher hab ich im TV etwas über luzides Träumen gesehen. Das ging ca. 2 minuten. Ist hier in Deutschland offenbar bei weitem nicht so populär wie anderswo.
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To Raven:
Ja, habs allerdings nach dem brennen schon wieder gelöscht. Ist aber nicht viel Arbeit, könnte also vielleicht auch nochmal eins machen, geht unter NERO ziemlich schnell.
Zum einschlafen ist es aber glaub trotzdem nicht gut geeignet, wenn du nicht gerade jemand bist der sehr schnell einschläft. Am besten wärs wenn du einen CD-Player mit Zeitschaltuhr hast.Damit hab ichs letzte Nacht probiert, leider war meine innere Uhr so genau dass sie mich kurz vor Beginn der CD geweckt hat… vielleicht sollte ichs einfach mal von meinem Bruder auf ne zufällige Zeit stellen lassen g
Traumgänger
Wär echt geil, wenn Du nochmal ne Version machst und mich die runterladen lassen würdest. Das Problem ist bei nur, dass die Beiden ununterbrochen reden. Meistens schlafe ich sofort ein, nachdem ich die CD ausgemacht hab. Höre übrigens mit einem Discman. Hab keinen Bock mitten in der Nacht die Anlage laufen zu lassen. Ist ziemlich nervig mit den Ohrstöpseln wenn man auf der Seite liegen will.
Aber was tut man nicht alles für einen einzigen luziden Traum…
Raven
is it Ok if I listen to the interview before I do it at night?
Yes ben7, that’s perfectly ok.
The point of the ‘Holy Grail’ method isn’t to use the interview for subliminal messaging, but rather to simply allow it to influence your dreams.
It’s the same as when you fall asleep half-way through a movie. Sometimes when you do this you can still hear the movie in your sleep, and it might cause you to dream about it.
Quite simply, the point is to get you to hear people talking about lucid dreaming while you are asleep, and it certainly works. It dosn’t matter that you’ve heard it before (I listened to the entire thing several times before I went to bed that night), just that it’s there in the background while you dream.
Oooh the more you guys talk about this the more I want to try it. Unfortunately, my computer is in the other room than my bed. I’m sure I can do it somehow though.
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I am quite disinterested in it, but only because I feel it would become a crutch, then I wouldnt be doing it on my own.
Kind of takes the skill out of it
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I don’t know if thats true. I think that it would give people the oppurtunity to spend some time being lucid. The more you become lucid the better the pattern will be set up in neural pathways and LDing will become easier for you regardless if you use the technique or not. Presumably.
I think my problem with the technique is that I frequently fall asleep with radio plays on or audio books… perhaps I am used to hearing that noise and tune it out. I have never noticed my dreams being affected by listening to The Shadow or The Jack Benny Show.
Then again… maybe those recordings stop playing before my REM states set in. Hmmmm…
I’m afraid of two things happening to me when I try this.
- I’ll not be able to sleep with the interview playing and I’ll be up for hours.
- If I try to start it after I’m sleeping it’ll wake me up.
When my stereo turns on to play a cd that I set on the timer the clicking sound of the stereo turning on always wakes me up before the music even starts. I guess I’ll have to figure out another way although I’ll probably just have to try putting it on repeat and falling asleep to it.
Now the problem of getting the sound at just the right volume…
Aydira why not use a timer (clock) then u can fall a sleep and an hour later or so it starts…that is what i will do.
I am going to make a record of my own for this for myself… 
aydira:
I’m not sure if this is possible for you, but I actually put the interview on a CD, so I can play it without having to leave my PC on. It’s only the first 80 minutes, but that’s plenty. Also, you’d be supprised how fast one can get back to sleep when they wake up after 4 hours. Don’t set it playing when you first go to bed (you wont be able to hear it in deep sleep anyway) but rather when you wake up after 4 hours.
PhanthomSpectre:
I completely agree with LostBoy. This is exactly like using the NovaDreamer. Sure, it makes it easy to get lucid, but each time you do your mind will adjust a little more to the idea of becoming conscious while dreaming. After a while, it would probably be relatively easy to LD without it.
Thanks Atheist, that’s a great idea! I’m going to try in a few days once my mom hooks up the CD burner in my computer. For now I’m going to try it with music to test and see if I can hear it in my sleep. I’m all excited now. And besides even if there was some reason I didn’t go lucid, LaBerge is a really cool guy to listen to anyways.
I think I might toy with it myself.
Thats a good idea with the editor…
I could edit the loud parts out. The ones that keep me awake.
sorry, hab nicht genug webspace, die datei ist fast 10mb groß
I don’t know if anyone else has had this problem, but on the download site liked from the beginning of this topic I have had a hard time downloading the mp3. I can get most of the interview but once it reaches a certain point, the program won’t respond and I must shut it down.
My question is does anyone know an alternate download site?
Thanks for the help.
Use a manager like download accelerator to get the whole file.
About the file being too big for a CD, so you have never heard of MDLP, I believe you can get 5 hours on a single minidisc.
You ppl that don’t get sleep while the music plays, why not use WBTB? You could sleep 5-7 hours, then just put the tape/cd/minidisc rollin’ 
I am personally planning the next: I will record something like “this is a dream”, in Finnish ofcourse, multiple times on a tape recorder. Then I sleep for like 6 hours, put my headphones on and the tape playing, then I will almost immediately fall asleep again and (maybe) have lucid dream(s)
Another thing to consider is the playback speed. I only know of Sonique player which has it built-in, and Winamp must have some plugin to change the speed of playback. I do not know how to measure tempo but it is easy to realise that the tempo of the interview is fully awake beta. Lowering the playback speed will make the voices sound different but it will lower the tempo, closer to that of sleep brainwaves.
[b] This topic now is locked and continued here in Part II: “Possible Holy Grail technique - Part II”
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