I think I may have found the perfect technique. Stephen Laberge, the top lucid dream expert in the world, did a 2 hour radio interview 7 months ago. I downloaded a 13.5meg mp3 recording of that interview and I set it to LOOP play softly from a speaker next to my pillow while I slept last night. I had three lucid dreams in the morning. I only turned off the audio when I was sure I was finnished sleeping and got out of bed for the day. I’m going to try it again tonight.
The 13.5meg mp3 Steven Leberge interview is still downloadable from the site of one of our members. https://home.no/lucid
(Thanks to “Djem”).
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Epic said pretty much all you can know without listening to it yourself. It’s a 2 hour radio interview with the founder of “the Lucidity Institute.” It’s 2 hours of discussion of lucid dreams, it consist of a lot. Too much to list here, but basically what LDs are, who has them, how often, how to have them, types of LDs and the benefits.
I recorded and edited this MP3 myself. So I was careful to remove the commercials and other junk. There is a “thunderclap” that explodes between the segments, it marks the “end/begining” of each segment. That may snap you more conscious when you here it.
I’m going to try this tonight! Thanks for the idea Epic!
Hmm DreamAddict i hope u report what effect it has…
Maybe it is because the topic is constantly about lucid dreams?
And your subconsciousness picks that up…somehow…In hypnosis a topic is also repeated over and over again and the subconsciousness picks that also up good, and dreaming and hypnosis are very close related i can say from my own experiments with them both.
This is a hypnotic suggestion, all who read this will get lucid!
Well, I tried it. I usually like to sleep in silence, so I had to find a good comfortable volume. Eventually I did fall asleep. I don’t think I ever became lucid. However, I had 2 different dreams that involved thunder and lightening. Too bad I failed to noticed the sign.
It seems like a promising technique. I would try it again.
I got the bugs worked out now. Because the interview never stopped, it was very hard to tolerate it, both while awake and while asleep, to the point of making it useless. So at first I wrote an applescript to turn my computer’s volume on and off in a endless loop with 5 minutes on for every five minutes off. This did not help. The sudden burst of turning back on every 10th minute kept bringing me to full awake and never let me sleep. But what I do now works very well. Now I use applescript to smoothly turn my computer’s volume up and down in the same 5 mins on, 5 mins off loop, but this time it gradually goes up and gradually goes down all night, like a triangle wave. It worked very well on this first night. I think my mind needed those periods of quietness to rest. The lucidity this time was very nice and smooth with no worries of waking up and lots of time to do what I want. I always try to look at and memorize paintings in my lucid dreams so I looked at fifty paintings but they were all repeating the same theme so I did other things like kissing.
On that first night when I let the interview play non stop, I also had an unusual problem of becoming lucid but always ignoring it and letting the dream story take over again. I think this might have been due to the interview never stopping and becoming intolerable. Now with the “loop of 5 minute slow ramps up in volume” and the “5 minute slow ramps down to zero in volume” I think this is solved, but not completely. Now the lucidity is better but still only half way to complete understanding of no limits. In other words the dream stories that are in effect now have half power over my lucidity.
If needed I could also have the “interview” and the “volume change script” run for me in the morning if I want using a shareware alarm program I have that can run files. But I don’t think I’ll be trying that yet. I like playing the interview all night.
Also one more item to mention is that I have been playing the 13.5meg, 2 hour interview from a 15meg ram drive so it doesn’t wear out my harddrive.
Thankyou, DreamAddict for recording editing the interview.
Here is the applescript loop I wrote.
repeat
tell application “Finder”
set volume 0
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 1
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 2
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 3
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 4
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 5
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 4
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 3
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 2
end tell
sleep for 60
tell application “Finder”
set volume 1
end tell
sleep for 60
end repeat
I’ve yet to try this, but my initial thoughs are that it could indeed be something of a Holy Grail technique. This is similar to a lot of self-hypnosis methods that I’ve read about. The idea (obviously) being that the words will make their way into your head subliminally.
My only concern is that the sound of the fan in my PC will drown out the interview, as I don’t intend to play it loud. The alternative is to record it onto a CD, although the entire interview is 2 hours so a decent slice of it would be missing - but I guess that really dosn’t matter considering I wont be listening to it.
At the risk of sounding somewhat oblivious, I don’t recall hearing any loud thunderous tones between sections. There were songs between parts of the intervew, in some cases several minutes worth, but nothing that might resemble a loud crashing sound effect, which a previous post in this thread had me expecting.
Anyway, I’ll test it out tonight. Thanks for the idea, Epic.
If its Coast to Coast I know the lightning sound they’re talking about. I wish I could download that interview… I am REALLY interested in hearing it but I have a stinking 28.8k connection at home and there are no burners here in the labs. Sucksville.
It’s about 14MB, you can just set it downloading while you sleep or something? It’s worthwhile listening to it, but I really recommend trying this ‘Holy Grail’ technique. I gave it a go last night, and I give it the thumbs-up. I’m just about to explain the entire process in my journal, so feel free to have a read.
I was just thinking about some other ways of doing this that would allow you to play the entire interview. I created a CD when I tried it, but since only half of it was there I remember hearing the same sections of the interview as many as 5 times during the night. I’d prefer to have the entire 2 hours, but I can’t see how this might be done. If you had a portable MP3 player, or a laptop with a sound card you could do it I guess.
But then, I keep thinking that maybe the fact that it repeats so often might help in allowing you to identify it within a dream? Since you’re hearing the same section every 70 minutes you might be able to use this to become lucid?
By the way, I heard those lightning sounds at about the midpoint of the interview. I only picked it up once, but I understand what DreamAddict was talking about.
My last two nights had no results. Yesterday night I remembered nothing at all. And last night I remembered a few dream charachters talking to me about lucid dreams as we played basketball, in the voices of the interview no less. Could this maybe because I like to play the interview all night instead of just in the morning. Maybe by the time light sleep comes in the morning it’s too late as I’ve just spent 7 hours in deep sleep learning how to igoure it.
That’s an interesting point, Epic. Maybe we get used to the sound by the time we start having LDs. I might try just turning it on when I wake up after 6 hours, and before I go back to sleep. Over the next week I intend to try all kinds of things with it, so expect to hear the results.
Thanks for the interest, by the way.
I hate being the first post on the second page - it might as well be a whole new topic!
I am going to make my own lucid tape…I am dutch so i need dutch lines…lol!
I just talk about lucid dreams and laberge 4 some hours till my tape is full…and also with my name now and then…looping the text…so indeed there is an extra tool 4 recognition…but first i need to get rid of this influenza…
I tried this again last night and, as I expected, it produces the same amount of success as it did the first time. I tried something a little different though - I only started playing the CD after 6 hours sleep. Plus, I also made the mistake of forgetting to put it on repeat.
However, during that hour that it was playing I expereinced a very long dream in which (as usual) I was talking to LaBerge. This went on for probably 30 minutes, before everything changed and I found myself walking to my house. Anyway, I’m just about to add it to my Journal.
Everyone, please try this! I’ve experienced lucidity without fail each time I tried this technique. Granted, I’ve only tried it twice, but I’m optimistic about the rest of the week.
I set the volume quite low. I can still clearly hear the voices, but it’s not enough to keep my awake. It’s no louder than the fan I usually have next to my bed, which I got used to falling asleep to.
To put it a little better, it’s so soft that if I did turn the fan on, I wouldn’t be able to hear the interview at all.
So I was careful to remove the commercials and other junk. There is a “thunderclap” that explodes between the segments, it marks the “end/begining” of each segment. That may snap you more conscious when you here it.
Too bad I failed to noticed the sign. 
I’ve experienced lucidity without fail each time I tried this technique. Granted, I’ve only tried it twice, but I’m optimistic about the rest of the week.