self distructive dreaming

Hey guys I’m still working on lucid dreaming at will though I’ve done it 3 times they are still short so I have little to no way of testing this idea, so if any of you can speculate (I won’t ask anyone to try it) I would love to hear.
So I don’t know if any of you know much about self harming but theres are some people that will cut them self or burn them self or something of the sort to distract them from stress/depression/etc.
As I was reading up on the subject I found a lot of people talk about using ice to quit; they hold the ice in there hand till it melts and it gives them the pain without leaving any scars, so it made me think could someone get a thrill out of a dream hurting them self?

In my dreams, pain is rare. Even if i hurt myself badly in an accident, there is usually not much pain, just a very uncomfortable nauseating feeling. I have jumped naked into snow and climbed a glacier in lucid dreams, and it was a strange experience because i could feel the strong cold, but not the pain from freezing.

well do you think it be different if you wanted pain?

I have only once tried to make myself feel pain in a dream, i was giving birth, and it didn’t work. Generally, you get what you expect in dreams though. :cool:

Instead of seeking the pain thrill in your LD’s why not use your LD to ask yourself what you need to help yourself to get out of hurting yourself?

exactly my idea Q. Why just drive the addiction, when you have so many other possibilities like asking your subconscious what to do, or become addicted to LD4all instead of causing self harm.

that could be an outlet

good luck on lucid dreaming

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Well thats probly a good idea pasQuale but it’s was my idea that it might be a helpful quitting aid.
Anyhow I’m not so worryed if it’s a good idea or not I’m just wondering if it can be done or not.

Yes, but I think that in a lucid dream, the quitting aid maybe bigger if you don’t actually hurt yourself as an outlet but use your lucid dreams to aid you more in quitting :smile: What i mean, is that in your dream you might find another way to help quit instead of harming yourself in a lucid dream. For example, if it is repressed anger that you can’t expres in real life, you can express your anger in a lucid dream, and that might in turn help you to express it better in real life or be able to talk about what is really hurting so much that you turn to hurting yourself.

Having said that, I think you could do it in a lucid dream if you wanted to, but I think that you won’t get the relief you have from it when you have the pain in real life. But that’s something that someone should try out who has experience with this. If you want to quit and use lucid dreams for it, i think it would be more helpful to use your lucid dreams in another way than reproducing the pain that gives you relief in real life.

i think that we are jumping to the conclusion that HE has a self harming problem, if this is the case, than yes ice is the answer. but as an expiriment, its interesting to try out

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I use you in a general meaning. :smile: maybe i should have used “one” instead of you. (in dutch you use “you” ).

hows it going faceshed? did you try it yet?

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i have only experienced pain in ND’s. When i am lucid, i never let myself think about feeling pain or injuring myself. But i imagine if you really wanted to hurt yourself you could do it, as long as you are fully intending to do so, and expect it to happen.

No I can’t get lucid dreams that easy so I didn’t try it but next time I have one (that lasts more then a minute) I will try it.
Even if I fail though I don’t think it will mean much because it might be hard to get into a self harming mood right when I do something really cool like become lucid.

I have tried jabbing myself in the arm with a dart, in a lucid dream. I did it to bring back a fading dream. There was pain. It was realistic. I was not pressing very hard though. If it would be an outlet for people who cut themselves, is another question. I think it depends on why they hurt themselves. A masochist would probably be able to satisfy the desire. Someone who hates himself and tried to actually do damage to his body, I think, would not be satisfied.

I can’t ever recall self-harming in a dream but a couple nights ago I flew a black hang glider into some high power lines because I was bored, and woke up as I was getting electrocuted.

It didn’t hurt a bit, just felt like a jolt.

for anyone still wondering about this yes it can be done with the same feeling it can be done with in the real world.