Go to bed with the intention that if you wake up, you will try an attempt. (To be safe, you can set an alarm after 5–6 hours of sleep.)
If you wake up by yourself without an alarm, without opening your eyes or moving your physical body, immediately try to get up, turn around, or fly as if you are already in a dream. These are also called separation techniques or out-of-body techniques (but essentially it is the same as a lucid dream). If it doesn’t work after 30–60 seconds, go back to sleep.
If the alarm goes off, walk around for 2–10 minutes, then lie down again with the intention to try to leave the body upon waking and enter a lucid dream using techniques, and fall asleep.
Try step 2 again.
If you manage to exit, rub your hands together, touch nearby objects, and look closely at them. This helps you stay in the phase longer so you don’t immediately wake up and it will also help make the image much more realistic and bright.
After some time you may return to your body and see a black screen. You should try the techniques again to re-enter the phase. Usually it is much easier on the second and subsequent attempts.
For me, thanks to this method, my lucid dreams have increased in duration by about five times, and I can also enter lucid dreams much more often than with simple intention, MILD, WILD, or other techniques.
No, It’s a regular lucid dreaming technique. Westerners are just hyperfocused on Laberge It’s a dream reentry variant described, for example as a part of Michael Raduga’s indirect techniques. It doesn’t matter how the technique is called or looks like. People who do FILD also claim to start from their bedroom.
I can attest, this approach works, yet not consistently. Feels weird to feel awake, but then “separate” straight to the dream. However again, the usual challenges how to reliably notice awakening and combine with dream recall. And how to improve the odds of waking in the right state.
I don’t agree. The only difference is that in a lucid dream you usually need to do deepening techniques less often to increase clarity and reach hyper-realism. But once you do that, an out-of-body experience and a lucid dream are no longer different. It can even be more vivid if you didn’t do deepening techniques in the lucid dream.
Yes, personally I haven’t noticed a difference between a lucid dream and an out-of-body experience, as it’s often called when you enter it using techniques like getting out of bed. I’ve also had out-of-body experiences that were immediately just as realistic as lucid dreams, and sometimes even more vivid.
However, sometimes the realism is lower until you perform deepening techniques. But after doing them, the image usually becomes even more realistic than in real life, and the sensations become very sharp.
as it’s often called when you enter it using techniques like getting out of bed
The “astral travelers” independently discovered “wake-induced” lucid dreaming to separate from the “physical body”, however thought about it as a different kind of experience. Like really going out of body. Some still believe this way, I guess.
That’s why pasQuale moved your topic to “Beyond Dreaming”. Because it’s not clear which OBE do you mean. The legacy naming or the real spiritual adventures. And people usually mean the latter.
its true that the distinction between lucid dreaming and OBE can be hard to tell - but the fact that you mention going out of your body or separating yourself is a OBE characteristic. I know that with WILD you can also have that - but lucid dreaming is more than that. I agree in the end it doesn’t matter what something is named, it matters that you become lucid - but I do think that OBE and lucid dreams are two different forms of consciousness/awareness experience.
but I do think that OBE and lucid dreams are two different forms of consciousness/awareness experience.
going out of your body or separating yourself is a OBE characteristic
It means, that the experience after “separating” feeling should be in some ways fundamentally different from the other ways of induction. What are the differences then?
In the mentioned Raduga’s indirect technique you actually can do both: either “separate” from the body, or enter a dream through “cycling”. Meaning the people who do them (the technique is well known in the post-soviet community) should notice two distinct kinds of experience, depending how exactly the technique works this awakening.
It’s a dream reentry variant described, for example as a part of Michael Raduga’s indirect techniques. It doesn’t matter how the technique is called or looks like. People who do FILD also claim to start from their bedroom.