The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part III

:smile: I’ve never had SP, I mean, we do when we sleep but I haven’t been “awake” to feel it once, never the old hag either.

Feel lucky, Smiffy!

Does the old hag only show up when you sleep on your back? (I sleep on my side)

I think the old hag can show up no matter how you sleep, but that’s just what I think.

Stop talking about the Old Hag, it’s not necessary that she comes when you SP. It only comes during a high level of SP, I never saw it and yet I often do SP that last about 1 minute.

It’s possible to have SP with any position ( side, back, and stomach ).

moved from beyond dreaming to the sticky SP and Old hag topic :moogle:

If you think hallucinating scary things in sleep paralysis is bad, wait till you hear what happened to me. I have never woken up in sleep paralysis in all of my life until these last couple of weeks. It’s happened to me twice so far. I hate the feeling of not being able to move. Know what else I hate? Being tickled.

Do you know how people that are being tickled spas out and kick and swing? Imagine not being able to do that, no way to fight that feeling off.

During the SP, I felt a finger rubbing up and down the bottom of my foot and I couldn’t do anything to stop that tickle feeling. I don’t even know what to call that feeling. What I felt was not pain, but something even more uncomfortable. Because I couldn’t struggle, if felt like that tickle feeling radiated through my whole body, and all I could think about is when would it stop. I’m estimating that it only lasted about 6 seconds, but it was the longest 6 seconds I’ve ever had to go through.

I would have much rather hallucinated a knife going through my foot. :sad:

Ouch… gee I never heard of that before. That’s some hallucination! I’ve only ever heard my dad calling me -which freaked me out, and as far as SP goes i’ve only have partial SP in my arm.

Perhaps your fear of being tickled came into your hallucination - it really does pay to have a positive outlook on things, even when they are bad because then your mind won’t be as likely to trick itself with those bad thoughts.

Yeah, it happens to me too.
Whenever I experience a SP, I’m being tickled in my armpits, the sensation is unbearable. The tickling sensation comes from the muscles which are paralyzed, nothing to worry about.
In some cases of SP, one could be rapped, it depends on the personnality of everyone.
In my case, I levitate above my bed for a few seconds then my “spirit” go down again into my body.
And when I try to calm down, the same experience happens again.
With time, I start to appreciate that.

Strange… i’d like to experience SP to see what would happen to me hehe. Although I don’t think you can induce SP, or can you?

Nope you can’t, it happens very irregularly.
But it can happen if you eat energetic food just before sleeping. Or if you’re in a period of BIG stress.
In my case, whenever I become aware I’m dreaming, I fall immediately into SP. It’s pretty discouraging in that I wanna LD !!

I think I managed to induce SP. I was trying to WILD and my arms and legs went numb and I couldn’t move them. I did have a brief point where I had an itch but that was before I was in SP and I managed to ignore it, soon after that the area went numb anyway.

Never had an OBE or SP… but have had Old hag before…

argh, thats terrible. i’ve had that happen to me too, one time i was dreaming regularly, walking in my house, when all of a sudden, this dream burglar appeared behind me, and tickled the living crap out of my arms. this went on for about 10 seconds. Absolutely unbearable.

I woke up, with my arms tucked right into my armpits. :cool_laugh: Yeah, i felt sheepish. SP sucks too, its the reason i no longer sleep on my back, i heard thats what sets it off. Though i have had SP where i’ve been lying on my side paralysed, feeling trapped under my sheets, staring at the wall inches from my face, feeling miserable.

Maybe it is the sleeping on the back what sets it off, both times it happened to me I was on my back.

No, the position isn’t important.
Trust me, when I do SP, I’m always on my stomach or on my side, never on my back.

I dont know how I never noticed this topic before lol
I too tend to experience sleep paralysis, usually just before going to sleep, I’ve always had a shocking sleeping pattern ever since I was five which I think encourges it. The episodes are rather irregular and I haven’t had one in a short while, which I have to say makes me rather glad, its never pleasant. At first it would only last for a minute or two and it would be rather boring really, just me being awake not being able to move and deathly scared and almost certain if i closed my eyes I’d die for some reason. However in recent times it has included hynagogic hallucinations, never anyone sitting on my chest but shadowy threatning forms and being sure that someone was coming into the room to kill me, it always really terrifies me. I’m sure my brother did suffer from it when younger, definitely the “hag phenomena” he used to report being awake and seeing or feeling something sitting on his feet so I’m sure it must have been SP cause I know it can run in families although I dont know any older members that have suffered from it.

It’s not a disease, don’t worry and it’s not hereditary, I’m the only one in my family who has these troubles.
SP occurs when your sleep isn’t regular, that’s all.

Thanks I know its not a disease, it’s just from what I have read of SP online at least there does seem to be an indication that there is a genetic component and that it can run in families which is why i’m sure now with hindsight what my brother experienced when he was a lot younger, between the age of 5 and 13 was SP.

Everyone can experience SP, even animals.
So, everyone has the same genetic component.

I get sleep paralalasis quite abit when i try WILD.
I have only seen the ‘old hag’ once about 3 months after I started trying to lucid dream. It was really wierd because I thought I had woken up and I was lying in bed. my door was open and i saw this black cloaked figure kind of glide across to me. I couldnt move any part of my body but I could blink. At this point i realised this couldnt be real life because I went to sleep wearing one of those sleep mask things. The old hag kept on gliding towards me and i was pretty freaked out. it got so close it was looming about 10cm away from my face. I then just told my self: Its just a dream its just a dream and woke up. its pretty freaky stuff! :sad:

although i’ve only had a few LD’s and have never encountered the hag I have an idea of what it is. wat do ya think of the idea of a person who is able to dream link very well that may just realy like screwing with people. one more thing, yes dream links are possible i’ve had 2 already.