the BIG Spirit Guide topic III

Beyond Dreaming
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I’ve been lucid dreaming for about 10 years now, recently more than when i was younger, and only recently found out about spirit guides while reading about it on this site last week. But last night i had a lucid dream (first since i’ve read about spirit guides), and decided to contact mine.

I yelled “i want to meet my spirit guide”. But my voice disappeared for the last 3 words. Losing my voice is common with me in dreams, and i know also for many people, but its never happened to me in a lucid dream, which seemed weird. So i repeated my request, and this time it came out loud and clear. Then from my right, from out of sight, a slight distance away, i heard a whistle. A whistle i would commonly use to get people’s attention, and i knew it was my spirit guide. I turned right and saw a woman standing at the bottom of the hill i was on waiting for me. She was african american, slightly overweight, with short hair. She reminded me of the oracle from the matrix movies (which is i thought of comparison i had when reading about spirit guides). I assume thats why it took that form. I asked her if she was my spirit guide, and she said yes, and she lead me to a building where people were going through something that reminded me of my fraternity’s initiation. And she asked me “are you ready to be initiated?”. But my fraternity has been something i have recently distanced myself from, especially emotionally. So i was confused and uncomfortable with the thought of being initiated in my dream. So i said to her “this isnt really something i want” and she said “ok, will you meet me again tomorrow night?”. I contemplated this for a second, since i rarely have ever had two nights in a row of lucid dreaming, but i said yes. And then she disappeared, along with everyone else who were in rooms in that building.

At this point i just pondered what had just occured, tried to figure out what it meant exactly. Then decided to practice some flying, and then woke up.

It was my first dream of the night, and after going back to sleep, had several more dreams, but none of which were lucid.

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I met my Spirit Guide last night… well at least I think I did. Well the dream started out at my old junior high school, I was going up to random DC and asking them questions. Some were rude and others would just say gibberish. Then, I went up to this DC, I forgot what I said to him but he started attacking me. So I yelled out for my Spirit guide to help me. Then instantly, this powerful wind blew everyone away except for me. This very attractive blond women comes and she is wearing a red and white striped leather suit. We hug and then she says to me, " Look at you, so young and lenient." I then notice the dream is fading but as it’s fading I looked and saw that she was wearing a chain around her neck… and on the chain was a cross with Jesus on it. Then I awoke with the image of the cross in my mind. I also I had about three very strange dreams before this one… very strange.

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My spirit guide is a wolf.

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See, i became lucid last night and i asked for my spirit guide to appear(old,wise,man form). It worked and he was an old wise asain guy.! He had a little work shop in front of him and a bottle. He poured the bottle into the pot and said something like “I put am aspect of you in full effect.” I said if he could tell me more. He said “Don’t you think what i told you was enough?”(ya know, that wise man kind of talk.) I was thinking, NO TELL ME MORE! but i diddn’t want to seem annoying so i let it go. We did a weird secret handshake and i said i’ll buy him a peice of pie next time :tongue: . And the LD went on from there. Was it my spirit guide? I’m not sure.

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In my LD last night I tried to contact both my SG and/or a manifestation of my subconscious. I tried to imagine either of them standing behind me, I then tried to create them right in front of me, no luck though. It wasn’t that I didn’t have the focus to summon one of them, but when I sensed the dream environment(a handy ability I’ve developed to scan all DCs in the area) I felt the presence of neither. Just four male students and a girl, I could feel that none of them possessed any special attributes. It was kind of a bummer…I guess I’ll try to find one of them in my next LD.

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ever think that your DC is your spirit guide?

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I’m not sure what I had - if it would be classed as a DC, SG or what. Sorry for the long post… I knew it would end up being a novel because there’s so much to it.

Around 3 years ago I moved to an island in western Canada. Up to that point, I’d lived in the same municipality on the mainland for all but 2 years of my life. I had some good friendships and the place felt comfortable, since I was so used to it.

Anyways, as I neared moving day I started having more and more hesitations about leaving. I really didn’t want to go. Then I had one of the most vivid dreams I’ve ever experienced. I was fascinated by lucid dreaming but wasn’t into it as much at that point. This was actually what piqued my initial interest in learning more.

I had just arrived on the new island via ferry, but I wasn’t alone - meeting me there was a very pretty girl with long wavy/curly black hair and more-green-than-hazel eyes. She seemed to be in her early 20s (I was 21 at the time). The camaraderie between us was very very strong. There was no explaination of who she was (never got a name), but it was obvious that we were extremely close, and that she cared deeply for me (and I her). She was excited to see me and hugged me, I felt very comfortable and relaxed; this was someone who I shared an absolute mutual trust with.

We walked around the streets by the docks and talked about a few topics, including the island, though I don’t remember specifically what about it. While walking she grabbed my arm and held my hand at times. It didn’t feel like she was leading me around, but it didn’t feel like we were lost either. The discussion and just the pure emotional bond seemed to be the focus.

After walking for a while she said she wanted to bring me to meet her family, so we went up to a house and I met her parents and brother (just a brief moment for the brother). I don’t remember her mother or brother’s appearance, but I do remember her dad. He was tanned with Italian or Greek features, mostly bald with short grey hair and bushy grey eyebrows, and small glasses. He wasn’t overly friendly but wasn’t rude either.

Shortly after meeting them the dream began to end. The last sight I remember is her standing near, looking at me smiling but not saying a word as I faded back to reality.

As I started waking out of the dream I distinctly remember having a strong desire to stay, I didn’t want to go. I don’t think I became lucid, but I did seem to realize at that point I was leaving. Throughout the dream it was as though I had a flicker of lucidity, but it never took off. I recognized that I didn’t know her, but at the same time it felt as if I knew her very well… if that makes sense. She doesn’t look like anyone I’ve ever known, or seen. Atleast not that I remember. I tried to go right back to sleep so I could jump back into the dream, but it didn’t work.

I’ve never had a dream about her since. However, last year while I was out I passed by a single lit scented candle (Vanilla&Coconut), and the scent brought back those emotions and desire to see her again. As soon as I smelled them my mind instantly went to her. It felt really odd to think of a dream so strongly, simply because a scent.

The dream was very very vivid. I remember every detail about her face as if I’d known it all my life and had studied it extensively. The white and red paint on the buildings along the docks. Even the screen door to her family’s house. The emotional ties to her that I felt were so strong, felt so real. It felt far stronger than friendship, though it didn’t feel exactly romantic (or atleast not lustful). After I dreamt it, I couldn’t stop thinking about her and the experience for several days. It’s 3 years later and I can still feel those emotions when I think about the dream. It’s out of character for me because I’m not an emotional guy… very rarely do I experience intense emotion.

Through that dream, my hesitation to move all but disappeared. When I did finally take the ferry over I spent the whole moving day looking around at everyone, seeing if just maybe I’d spot her :smile: Foolish perhaps, but I really thought it may happen. My life has vastly improved after the move and I would never go back. It was a great decision, and the dream helped me enter into it without a negative attitude.

Do you think that was just a vivid dream? A DC related to what was on my mind at the time (the move)? Or would that be the definition of a SG, or SC? If it was SG/SC it strikes me as strange that I was taken to see “her family”.

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I tryed to talk to SC and SG, but they didn’t respond. So forget them, if they don’t want to talk to me why should I talk to them. Maybe later on I will try again.

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Hi Troober,

I completely understand your feelings about this dream. I don’t know if the dream character you met could be called a spirit guide. This character has been called by the swiss psychologist Carl Gustav Jung the “anima” and your dream would be called, according to his theories, a “great dream” or an “archetypal dream”.

The best example about “anima” has certainly be given by the french poet Paul Verlaine in this poem :

[i]I often have this dream, strange and penetrating
of a woman, unknown, whom I love, who loves me,
and who’s never, each time, the same exactly,
nor exactly different, she knows me, she’s loving.

Oh she knows me, and my heart, growing
clear for her alone, is no longer a problem,
for her alone, she alone understands, then,
how to cool the sweat of my brow with her weeping.

Is she dark, blonde, or auburn? – I’ve no idea.
Her name? I remember it’s vibrant and dear,
as those of the loved that life has exiled.

Her eyes are the same as a statue’s eyes,
and in her voice, distant, serious, mild,
the tone of dear voices, of those who have died.[/i]

I think this poem describes rather precisely the feeling of these “anima dreams”, thus I find it useless to try and add anything. And you can find here a recent dream of mine who was also clearly related to the anima. :smile:

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I read that link you sent and it made me search out additional sites on the topic. It’s fascinating :happy:

From reading about it I think you’re dead on with your assessment. I’ve never had a dream like that before, or one as impacting… it’s quite cool hehe.

I’m going to have to read more about Jung’s anima theory. I think people would look at me strange if I told them I ‘met’ my anima, but I would like to learn more about it. I guess then I met part of my subconscious? That’s wild!

I wonder though- how can we differentiate the archetype from the SG? Before posting, I read this whole thread to see if anyone mentioned a dream like my own, since the answer may have already been given. Thinking back, a lot of the dreams I read about had a SG figure that fits exactly into one of the archetype categories? How can we tell the difference? Or is there one? :eh:

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There is perhaps no difference. According to Jung, archetypal figures are very important and it’s possible that the anima may sometimes play the role of a spirit guide. If you find this interesting and want to search more about this, a very good book is “Man and his symbols” by Jung and other psychologists from his school. :smile:

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hey everyone, long time no see(yet again), i have a theory about my SG’s, i’m not sure it’s true though,

i know i have 3 SG’s,
i know 2 are female, 1 is male, and i believe he is black(no, not meaning that in a racist way, he just is, lol)
and i’m getting better at comunicating with them, because of this i’ve finally found out all of their names, at least, that is the part i’m unsure of…

the first name i’ve found is “saphira”, yes, the one from eragon, i know that doesn’t make much sense, but that’s the name i have found, a long time ago(actually twice, i’ve heard it once before, but i forgot what she said, later on i started practicing communication after i’d read eragon, small while i was convinced i’d find a dragins egg, also doesn’t make sense, but at one point i thought her say(lol): “but you have allready found it”, and after a while i found out that i had “found” the “egg” the moment i started communicating with her, and that she wasn’t a dragon, but my spirit guide)

the second name is “sharon”, which also doesn’t make much sense(well, it could, if i didn’t have the image of a girl i met about a month ago with it)

and the third one is samuel L jackson(again, doesn’t make much sense)

in my dream “finding ld4all” i had seen all of these SG’s, and talked to them shortly
the first SG was an adult woman (looks different every time, first times she looked like the woman from “the second rennaissance” from the animatrix, a bit like, i dunno, some higher being or w/e, then in “looking for ld4all” she looked like a regular woman)

the second one was a young girl(only saw her once, in my memories she looks like a little girl(10 years old maybe?) with kind of manga-style hair(curls, VERY much))

the third one was a black, adult man(could be samuel L jackson, could also be the “god” character in bruce almighty, annyway, short hair, seem to remember a beard on him from “looking for LD4all”, might be wrong there though, he seemed oldest of the three)

don’t know in what order i talked to my second and 3rd SG, but i know that all three of the characters i spoke to in the beginning of “looking for ld4all” are my spirit guides, because i asked them, so i had a pretty good lead on what they look like

so, i’m not exactly sure, but i feel(for myself) that i’m right about this XD

p.s. long post XD, longest one i’ve ever made i think, going to try and make some more contact, and train my visualisation some more, because i’m training that a lot these days, seeing as i couldn’t do it properly, and it’s a cool thing to be able to do, it’s actually keeping me from falling to sleep regularly, but it does keep me awake and still enough to try and do a WILD every day XD, so it does have a lot of advantages on the field of lucid dreaming, i’ll keep you posted on my progress for this stuff, because i’m still not too good at distinguishing my own thoughts from their responses

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Well… 3 nights I ago I had a dream where I encountered a woman who looked very much like my previous dream (long wavy/curly black hair, more green-than-hazel eyes). Her facial features were a little different, but she could have easily been the sister (IRL) to the girl I dreamt of before.

I was talking to her and out of the blue she told me “You’re too careful. You don’t take enough risks.”
Me (defensive): “I do take risks.”
Her: “Really? Like what?”
I couldn’t think of anything :razz: Skydiving came to mind, but somehow I knew she wouldn’t accept that as an answer. Then I woke up with a similar feeling as last time, but far less powerful. I think because I was a bit mad at her, haha.

I guess she’d be my “Sophia” anima, or SG. I’ll have to keep an eye… er, mind? out for DC who look like her. She’ll certainly be the first one I’ll call for if I become lucid.

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Is there any Christian in this forum that also tried to contact his Spirit Guide?

The point is that Christianity claims these are demonic situations. That there aren’t any Spirit Guides, except Angels and Guardian Angels, but we can’t contact with them only holy people such as monks and priests might be able to do that sometimes, and that mainly when Angels chose to contact with them. Also Christian Monks claims that if you try to contact an entity, that will be a demon, you will be possesed and you will go away from God.

Personally i have good experiences from Christianity. I have met monks and priests and generally i find Christianism a very good, friendly and full with love religion.I really, how can is say it, like and trust it :smile:

Still, the matter remains: I am interested since my childhood in exploring the unknown paths of our existence.
:content:

What’s your opinion?

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Follow your heart. Just make sure you are not demonicly\angelicly biased.

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I was born and raised a Roman Catholic, and I still consider myself that, but sometimes you just have to take a good look at your own sense of logic, of right and wrong, and what humans have made up verses what is truly God-sent. I think this is where everyone needs to make his own decision. If you believe the Bible (or any religious book for that matter) is 100% truth, compare it to what human representatives have said. Or if you believe your priest/monk friend, that’s fine too.

Personally, I justify spirit guides by saying humans wrote the Bible, so I’ve never heard God Himself say this is all satanic. Unless there’s a passage quoting Jesus himself regarding this matter, I don’t see the harm.

(I don’t see the point of blindly accepting EVERY aspect of your religion. I don’t believe in EVERYTHING my church stresses, but I agree with the ‘basics’)

I hope I haven’t offended any die-heart religious people. I merely suggest a little skepticism goes a long way.

PS: whoa, i got through a whole post without a smilie? :eek: (oh, wait…)

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You’ve just expressed your opinion, so i don’t see any reason to be offended even a die-heart person :smile:

I will post something about the subject tommorow 'cause at this moment my major priority is to go to sleep :tongue:

It’s nice to use emoticons, they help you to express your feelings better :content:

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I want to point out that to work with dreams (esp interpreting dreams) was considered forbidden as well due to dreams being “occult”. Now it seems that the word for dream was wrongly translated with the word for witchcraft and that caused it.

What I want to say, is that the bible as you know it today is not all the words that were written down so many years ago. The bible has been put together by people who judged the contents, what was to go in there, and what not. What they deemed right at that time; that means, things were left out, edited. And it also has been translated from the original scrolls, and those translated words have been translated again and then again.

anyhow I don’t want to go into a bible discussion because I am very bad at debating but I wanted to say that.

Having said that, if you feel more comfortable contacting your guardian angel instead of a spirit guide, by all means do that. It is what you feel is right. If you don’t feel it is right, then don’t. It is not a thing you should do.

For myself, when hearing about spririt guides for the first time, i was intrigued and want to find out about mine, and the logical way was a lucid dream. In the same way I have searched for god in lucid dreams, for the Light, for my angel, etc.

I believe God is inside your own heart and if you listen to that voice, it will guide you.

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Still, the matter remains: I am interested since my childhood in exploring the unknown paths of our existence.
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You are just like myself. Im a christian guy very much in persuit of finding out the true human potential. It is hard sometimes to know whats right or wrong. Human hands wrote the bible as they did every other religouse book. The bible is a great guide to human life but I go with what i feel is right in my heart because following blindly to something without caution where there is so much room for human corruption or even just error seems unwise. Ive Made no pact with any demons and ive experianced a few things that have compleetly changed my perception of what is and is not real. Just make sure you take caution with your religion and in experomenting with your potential because in ither case you can quickly find yourself in a place you dont want to be. I recomend just praying about it and following your heart. :content:

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ha! Interesting that this should be brought up, right before I arrived on scene, seeing as was assuaging my friend about this jsut the other day! I guess i was wrong then, in saying that it had never been specifically said that SGs were demonic, however the (surprisingly) strong logic (for a theological topic at any rate), has once more convinced me!

On another intersting note, i’ve yet to get an LD (curse the post-HI barrier/Attention Deficiencies spawned by multitasking!) but I truly believe i’ve met my SG. Settle in, its gonna be another long post! XD

Since earlier then I can remember (about the time I began to love reading), my hyperactive imagination has given me dreams of such vivid detail, solid storyline, and surprising length that its hard to draw symbols from. However, not long ago (maybe a year), I finally caught one all-important similarity… a DC.

This DC, always one of the other main characters in the dream (along with me, and possibly one or two others), always looks and acts much the same. While she is by far the most vivid person in the dream itself, whenever I wake all that is left in my memory is ghost images of her.

I’ve met her several times outside the adventure dreams, and even a few outside of certain other types of dreams. Every time that something exciting wasnt happening though, it was as though she was trying to tell me something…

One of my most memorable such encounters, took place not in a grand adventure, but one of the more tranquil settings. It was obvious sometihng was going on, the peace in the beautiful meadow I was in was marred by unseen tensions. Even the water of the crystal-clear pond stood still. She looked me in the eye, and I knew she was telling me something important… Blast! If I could remember just one word! The clouds surrounding the purplish mountains where wispy, and my dream began to fade back out. She had both hands on my shoulders now, as if she was shaking me, but I fell back into null it seemed.

At any rate, by remembered snippets of her looks, and her actions, she reminds me extremely strongly of one of my friends… I’ve been seperated from the friend for some time now, but while we were together (most of my childhood) I looked up to her in the same manner one would an SG or Guardian Angel. I suppose what i’m really wondering is if this DC - My SG - is really that friend in one form or another, or simply a deep and strong impression of her.

To carry the oddness even further, I saw one of the “contacting your SG” topics, and decided to humor it. The way it set up was pretty much fail proof so long as you thought SGs might exist, however the SG ID (the article called it the “true name” of the SG, usually manifested as a physical touch), was a slight pressure on my chest and right cheek. This didn’t impress me much however, seeing as i’m a skeptic of SDs and Outside Entities (though man do i want them to exist!).

What DID impress me, was my first strong HI that night. My last, msot vivid image before I was jarred awake, was that of my SG, hugging me in a manner that pressed against my chest, with her hear resting on my right cheek. I found that more then a little odd! I’ve also got another odd SG experience, a friends, documented in my exeriment discussion topic regarding SGs’ existence in real life, that you can also look at. His was truly spectacular!

At any rate, I hate to take up 30 pages of the topic, but I really hoped somebody would have some insight on the strangeness (my skepticism still hasn’t laid down yet!), i’d appreciate the discussion! :happy: