This is getting interesting. I have read several posts throughout this site where people have said that I was not trying to WILD but… People either almost did WILD or succeeded. It reenforces my belief that you really have to embrace the concept of no mind, when doing WILD. When doing your WILD routine you want to be aware of what you are doing but, don’t think about it or anything else for that matter. The 2 important things to keep in mind are 1) keep your attention to one thing ( breathing, counting, HI etc.) 2) you have to let the rest of your consciousness go. If you are thinking about anything, it will make it hard, if not impossible to break through to the dream world.
That makes sense to me, maybe that’s why I can’t normally do WILD. It would rock to be able to take a nap and do WILD at will.
When your body parts move, do they “move” physically or “loosen up”? If they loosen up your doing well, this feels like im moving by its my astral body (dream body) moving. It feels pretty good aswell, like it gets into a more comfortable position and the physical objects that surround your physical body are non-existant as your dream body goes through these.
When i started off i could only move a finger like that, but then my body… now im waiting for a full-blown projection 
This is good to hear 
I can do that to my hand, and sometimes my whole arm. I haven’t thought much about what it means, it just feels good.
thats cool, this usually happens for me when my physical body is going to sleep. Its not easy to do unless i put alot of effort into it or it happens spontaneously.
can you WILD while listening to music? seems like this would keep me conscious and relaxed. i would have something to focus on (which is my biggest problem) but is it bad to focus on external stuff? i need something to keep me awake while i’m trying it.
- laddie
In my opinion it is bad to concentrate on external stimuli. But, understand that is just my opinion. It is not a rule or anything. It just does not do it for me. Give it a try. If it works for you then great. If not then try something else.
Yeah, that’s exactly how it felt - like they were loosening up. It was relaxing 
interesting… today I woke at 5:30 and tried WILD, but it was pretty frustrating…because I layed down and got to be able to completely relax, to the point that my body became all numb, and it was so cool because I couldnt feel my physical body, and when i tried to feel it by making contact with two fingers or something I would just feel all thin tingling… anyways I knew I was very close. Then I dont know if this happens to you all but I felt like I could move my body (not physical because I knew I was laying still) but like for example, if I wanted to move my hands sepearte from each other I would just think about it and they would seperate as if some kind of external force would make them apart. weird experience but cool.
soo… anyways, after all this I never saw any HI or heard any sounds soi was getting frustrated, because all i had was the numbness, and this was going on for more than half an hour i think.
anyone knows what should I do next? because I was pretty much stuck.
Hey that’s good Daita you were very close. Usually when I get the feeling of having imaginary hands or other body parts, I gently imagine myself floating up and take control of my dream body. Perhaps you can also try creating a spinning or falling sensation. And it is not necessary to have HI to WILD. My advice is that when that happens again, do a reality check. Good luck!
ok, so Ill try float away next time… but what happens after I float above my body?
but when you said to try do a reality check, you mean to do it while laying down there even though I havent entered a dream yet? because Im thinking it would be weird, the only RC I would be able to do in there without opening my eyes (because otherwise id wake up and loose all the concentration I had) would be by trying to traspass my bed with a finger, which by the way is the same RC i do in dreams.
When you float out, you just stand on the ground, or fly through the roof, do what ever you want. Or maybe try to stabilize the dream.
As for the RC, sometimes when trying to WILD, you enter the dream without realising it. It happened to me before. It’s really confusing when you are 100 % sure you’re still awake, but you’re in fact dreaming. Maybe if you don’t do a RC and you fall back asleep you won’t even know that you were dreaming. I suggest you do the nose RC: hold your nose shut so you can’t breathe through it any more, and try to inhale. If you can, then you are dreaming. Do that when you get the sensations, and then they go away and you think that you were unsuccessful.
wow interesting… ok, so while Im floating away if I open my eyes Ill be opening my “astral eyes” right? and I should be able to see my body still laying down…? because I was so sure that if I opened my eyes durring the moment I felt i could move my astral body that I would instantly wake up.
I think the best thing is to go with it naturally and without thinking too much. I’m not sure what you would see, every one experiences this differently, but while it is happening, try not to think about what you should do, just do it. It will increase your chances of success. I usually don’t float away, but just enough to sit on the bed, than I walk around like in any other lucid dream. If things go the way they do with me, your movements and everything else at first will feel like you’re just imagining them, but then they will become real.
Ok i’m so frustrated right now. This morning my cat woke me up, and I yelled at it for waking me up in the middle of a good dream, but then I thanked it because now I can try WILD. I went and used the bathroom, drank a little bit of coke, then went and layed back down.
After a while my whole body was VERY heavy. (I think this couldve been a form of SP, but I don’t know cause i’ve never experienced SP before.) I didn’t try to move or anything, I just kept making sure I was relaxed, because I noticed every now and then my whole body was tensed up.
After a while, not sure how long, I started seeing images of a big tree, just the top at first, then it would flash away. Then it would come back with more of the picture in view, the sun, then the whole tree w/ sun, then eventually a lake, but I was still very away of the heaviness feeling on my body which caused me to be aware of the matress and all that stuff.
So I layed and waited and not to much longer, I started hearring this weird noise, that was obviously my imagination, it didn’t last that long and when it was over I kept seeing a picture of a room I was familiar with. I was imagining me walking around, and tried to reach my hand out and grab something, but no success. But I was still very aware of my body and the matress it was on.
I kept this up for a long time and eventually gave up. I was able to open my eyes and see my room and slowly let my body catch up with me, went and used the bathroom and just went to sleep, because I layed there for over an hour and a half and was dead tired.
What can I do differently next time? or what did I do wrong this time? I guess one thing I’m not sure about is, I was thinking a LOT. It’s hard to clear out my head, but even when I was walking around the room I was still thinking a lot. But other then that I don’t know what I could have or should have done.
I would recommend that you not think alot, if you need to think about something focus on that one thing and hold your focus there. Also don’t try to move around until you have no feeling of your body.
Though I will say when you were seeing all those images you were pretty close. Next time you might want to try gently “projecting” yourself into the image.
I completely agree with Lucidity_Master. Thinking is your enemy and will get you stuck in that stage. You want to pick one thing to focus on( breathing, counting, HI, falling, spinning just to name a few examples) Let go of all other thoughts. From there, you just sort of let things happen. Just remember thoughts, feeling etc will keep you too awake to completely cross over into the dream. If you find yourself thinking about something other than what you are focusing on, and you will, gently push the thought away and return to your point of focus.
Anyway, you were very close so keep practicing.
I’m getting really aggravated and frustrated as well now. 
Last night was the second night I had even tried WILDing, and I hadn’t been practicing any LD stuff for a couple of months, but still. I went to sleep at about 11:20, woke up at 5:18 because my alarm didn’t go off at 5:00, I read for about 30-40 minutes and then got back in bed.
My main problem is not thinking or focusing on one thing. Most of my body relaxes, but then I still ‘manually’ control my breathing, so my chest/lung area is very active. I laid straight on my back, which is not normal for me, but I read it was the best way to do it.
I had gotten to sleep very easily during the rest of the night, so I thought I might have some luck. But again, there wasn’t one thing to focus on, I wasn’t really having any HI as far as I thought. I mean I saw some different colors some times, and I can very faintly make out images of things I am thinking about, but I can’t really concentrate on them without thinking about something else, or thinking about posting here. I think I may have schizophrenia. 
Should I count? That might make me more awake than I already was though. Should I focus on my breathing? Which part of my breathing? The sound, chest movement (doubtful), or just focus on the rhythm? Or should I try to picture something?
I am very confused. After a while, I become uncomfortable, my mind wanders, and then I realize I am thinking too much and get up.
What should I do?
I’m getting really aggravated and frustrated as well now.
Last night was the second night I had even tried WILDing, and I hadn’t been practicing any LD stuff for a couple of months, but still. I went to sleep at about 11:20, woke up at 5:18 because my alarm didn’t go off at 5:00, I read for about 30-40 minutes and then got back in bed.
My main problem is not thinking or focusing on one thing. Most of my body relaxes, but then I still ‘manually’ control my breathing, so my chest/lung area is very active. I laid straight on my back, which is not normal for me, but I read it was the best way to do it.
I had gotten to sleep very easily during the rest of the night, so I thought I might have some luck. But again, there wasn’t one thing to focus on, I wasn’t really having any HI as far as I thought. I mean I saw some different colors some times, and I can very faintly make out images of things I am thinking about, but I can’t really concentrate on them without thinking about something else, or thinking about posting here. I think I may have schizophrenia.
Should I count? That might make me more awake than I already was though. Should I focus on my breathing? Which part of my breathing? The sound, chest movement (doubtful), or just focus on the rhythm? Or should I try to picture something?
I am very confused. After a while, I become uncomfortable, my mind wanders, and then I realize I am thinking too much and get up.
What should I do?
Edit: Also, what about swallowing, my mouth gets really dry after a while, and I don’t want to swallow because it kind of gets me out of whatever I was in.
Hey noanswer42,
Dont frustrate yourself. LD’ing isnt like fastfood all the time! You only tried it 2 times, id ay after 200 times with no luck, go ahead and be frustrated. Your main problem is a common one and you;re definately not scitzo 
. If you want to inprove on focussing on 1 thing try zazen meditation, helps a lot. About focussing on counting or breathing or even HI, try them all (even a combination might work) several times, and go with what gives you best results, as each person is different and has succes with different methods. And about swallowing, try not to focus on that but dont force it! Since our minds dont like to be foreced it might actually make it harder not to focus on it. After a while if you get deep enough into a WILD you probbaly will forget about the whole thing anyway. Good luck with it!