I just started getting lucid in my dreams but when I control it’s not fully conscious like I’m thinking right now. It controls for me desires according to whatever my subconscious feels like and I just go with it but can’t be like “wait a minute, I rather do this” it’s been all my lucid dreams and I’m worried it’s what this is. I’ve done all the techniques but my subconscious seems to be taking over. Any help? Or is this normal in the beginning then you get more in control? It would help so much if I can just do whatever I want.
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AFAIK there are “Fake Lucid Dreams”(FLDs) Which are when you dream about lucid dreaming.
But I was aware that I could wake up.
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It was either a FLD like Illtryatleast mentioned or maybe you are too afraid of waking up and losing control, then you leave the dream to return to a NLD state.
My hint is: Try to use techniques for stabilization (there are several you might need to try around, check the hints for teleporting, which are actually generic) and remind yourself to be more assertive about your expectations while inside a dream.
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I don’t think it’s fake if I’m aware that I’m dreaming. I was able to manifest what I wanted to do these past few times but it still feels subconscious and guided. If something comes clear to my head I’ll act on it but not everything comes to my mind clear. I’ll look back and think why I didn’t do that. And I have looked at my hands in dreams but it felt subconsciously manifested.
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Dream control and lucid dreaming are seperate things
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I know this..
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From what I understand, you don’t really have a plan. The whole plan is just to realize you’re dreaming and then do something — and that’s what’s happening. But even in real life, it’s hard to do something right when you don’t know what to do. Later you start thinking, “Man, I should’ve done it differently, used my time better,” and so on.
Try planning something simple — for example, once you become lucid, don’t go anywhere, stop following the dream’s storyline, just pause and look around to see how long you can stay in that state. If you can’t hold it for even a second, that means you have no control and it’s just a false sense of lucidity. That’s actually the main trigger: when I realize I’m dreaming, I should check — am I really lucid? So, stop reacting to everything and make sure you’re not just continuing the dream’s script.
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Is this somewhat like if you woke up in the morning totally groggy, and you did the wrong thing because you were operating by habit rather than by reason? It seems like this whole dreaming awareness thing is a matter of being awake and conscious to some degree while you are dreaming…
Level 1: Consciously aware of a dream and able to remember it.
Level 2: Able to think clearly enough to recognise it is a dream.
Level 3: Able to think so clearly it is almost like being fully awake.
Level 4: Fully awake and rational experiencing vivid hallucinations.
If you are able enough to remember it maybe there is an exercise you could do to make you become more rational once you become aware that you are dreaming. If you have some habitual method for becoming lucid perhaps you could pair this with such a thing to wake you up just a little bit more.
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I plan to do something and it’s worked but didn’t get the result I wanted. And when I realize I’m dreaming, I don’t have clear headed thought to do whatever I want. It’s just if I gets manifested it’ll go through. Like I’ve done reality checks but it was subconsciously manifested
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It’s at least still lucid if I’m aware I’m dreaming. It’s just the control that seems to be led by the dream.
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I could try to command to be more conscious but the dream could still take control. Sometimes I’ll start taking subconscious control before realizing I’m dreaming. It’s weird. I’m probably semi lucid but not enough.
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I get it, that was my issue too. I think it all comes down to the brain just not being trained for awareness. Try practicing mindfulness in your daily life—there are plenty of exercises you can use—and it’ll be much easier to bring that state of awareness into your dreams once you realize you’re asleep. If you want quality results at night, you’ll have to put in consistent effort during the day. But honestly, it’s a skill that’s useful not just in dreams, but in everyday life as well.
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What I meant was doing something that requires more complex thought and reference to waking memory. One example is to carefully examine the location you are in and compare it with your memory of what that location is supposed to be like. Or perhaps some mathematics. What is the approximate square root of 40? As a part of “mindfulness training” perhaps you could do this throughout the day whenever you are in a familiar location or see a number.
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