Hey all! I am VERY frustrated with WILDs (isn’t everyone? )!!! Well, MY problem is that when my body is numb, and my HI is going a bit, my eyes flicker (like I’m going into REM) and then it stops. I KNOW that I am not TOO concious… well maybe, but I totally relax myself…what the HECK is going on?
BTW, I have to share…yesterday, when I was taking a nap, I did MILD a few times, I tried WILD twice, gave up and just went to sleep. I was very mad and just wanted to sleep…get this…RIGHT before dreaming, I all of a sudden became LUCID…I was watching my HI (it looks like a small TV with bizarre pics…are any of YOURS like that ?) and then I entered a dream…but it was 3rd person …I know weird. I saw Joaquin Phoenix (whom I adore )wearing farmer-like clothes running the streets in a small town like he was looking for something. He was saying, “Where IS she?”…he was looking for ME!!! When he was saying this, he had a CUTE smile on his face! sigh How freaking cool IS THAT!? Then I entered a VERY wierd version of my room. After about 10 sec. my dream went black…and yes another question : HOW can I remember to SPIN to stay in my dream? I don’t spin when my dreams are fading even IF I’m lucid…oye. I would LOVE your opinions and comments (and ANSWERS ) on this! Sorry that it’s so dang long! Thanks heaps guys!!!
I think it’s not important. Just don’t pay too much attention to that.
As for me, it’s not really like a TV, but it’s like a screen. Yes, I think many of ours are like that anyhow. Sometimes it’s more tridimensionnal and comes in front of your eyes.
I believe if you can remember to spin once or twice, it will be like an habit. If you never remember, try another prolonging technique when your dream fades or goes black: rubbing your hands works well too.
i think the eye flickering part is important, well, atleast it is for me
when i WILD i get hardly n e of the normal “body falling asleep” stuff
usually ill lay there and count, or do various other methods iv heard, then it usually ends up that may eyes will start to flicker very rapidly and the dot in front of my eyes will start to swirl a little faster then usual (iv never had actuall HI in my life…just swirley dots…). Next ill get the feeling that im going to fall into my eyelids (thats the best way i describe I can describe it) but then usually nothing happenes after that
…the one time i did do wild was when i woke up a little in the night…i woke up just enough to know i was awake but i didnt open my eyes or move or n e thing…then immediatly started feeling my eyelids vibrate and i heard churchbells and the “fall into your eyelids feeling” then the next thing i knew i was in a dream
…point…i think the eyes flickering is important and it probably just stops because either you not tired enough (usually teh case for me) or your paying too much attention and keeping yourself awake
I think eye vibration is supposed to go away anyways as you cut off your physical sensations.
However, if you focus on it you may tie yourself to physical sensations and wake yourself up. Just kind of ignore it.
I usually get past that stage to where I feel like the blackness I am looking at becomes a 3d blackness that surrounds me. It is a bit of a snap transition, where all physical sensations disappear and I am in nothingness (2d) and then it feels like the 3d space expands out from my head to infinity.
GREAT NEWS GUYS!!! I did MILD the past 2 days and it WORKS FOR ME! I am SO sure that I can have lucid dreams AT WILL NOW! It’s really cool how it has happened the past 2x in a row. What happened was I said/did MILD 2-4x and REALLY MEANT IT. And like I said before: RIGHT BEFORE dreaming I all of a sudden realized that I was in HI and was looking at the fleeting pics. What happened the 2nd time though was that I started waking up b/c I was so excited…I didn’t even get to the HI the 2nd time (I WAS SOOO CLOSE TOO). I DO NOT have a CLUE why this happened. HOW do you relax? I talked to myself in the head (you know, saying stuff like “I’m Lucid…”)…does that screw up the process? WHAT SHOULD I DO? I would LOVE all your comments and suggestions! Thanx!
I tried this in the afternoon. Laberge said that you can get Lucid in afternoon naps! So I tried it and it worked! What I do is I do MILD about 3-6 times (OR 2-4 times…it depends on how I’m feeling…) and go to bed…when I say MILD, I TRULY mean it. I don’t know what else to tell you, The Guardians ! I just experiment and see what works for me.
BTW, I had ANOTHER lucid dream this morning (I got to sleep in–there was LOTS of snow! ) It was absolutely INCREDIBLE! I can’t even put into words how it felt. The HI was phenomenal. BTW, I’ve experienced this about 3 times before(the HI/WILD)…this was MORE cool except I did NOT WILD! I was watching the fleeting pictures and I noticed that they were snapshots of my day…IT WAS AMAZING! Then at the end of the HI, I saw a blue 3D figure of a person skating across my line of sight, then I saw a blue plastic disk (like one used in gambling kind of games) and it was spinning to my face and it disappeared. I even heard a swishing sound and it got louder as it got closer to my face!!! That was weeeeeeird ! Then I started dreaming…
It was funny how it happened. I was walking down the stairs in my home and I asked myself, “Am I dreaming?” I thought that was absurd considering HOW REAL it felt. I looked at a face clock and it changed…I thought that was the coolest thing, so I did it a few times ! Then I went outside and tried opening the screen door and it wouldn’t open, so I ripped it off its hinges and threw it from my deck into my next door neighbors’ yard. LOL! When I flew, I saw the most amazing blue, purple, and pink sunset with cotton clouds with lightning flashing in it. All I can say is: WOW.
I have been doing this for about 6-7 months…believe me, I practiced A LOT. I didn’t get this way overnight !
I’m a tad confused on my rank thing below my name…I noticed that I have one STAR now! How do you get more stars? I consider myself to be almost experienced–not a Novice . Also, how do you change the caption below your name? AND (I know–TOO many questions ) how do you get what pic YOU want instead of the ones they (this web site) offers? Thanx a lot!
Hi LDGirl!
The rank and the numbers of stars are not related to your real LD’ing skills. They depend on how much you have posted (10, 50, 100 posts, etc.) and are given automatically. You can change the caption below your name and the avatar (the pic) in your profile (blue button at the top of the forum pages). Your avatar must be not bigger than 80x80 pixels and 10 Kb, as said in the forum and avatar guidelines. The best in my opinion is to host your new avatar on Imageshack (just google for this name). It’s free and there is no time limit. Then you put the link to your hosted avatar in your profile.
I’ve been lding for a long while but this HI thing escapes me. I’ve had the Paralysis and the shocks but I dont understand how HI should look… all I see is little tiny things on the inside of my eyelids, nothing like the huge lights people describe or the images others do…Close your eyes right now, thats what I see…
Ps- I just remember a strange occurance in which I was at my grandmothers house… I was laying in bed trying to go to sleep, I closed my eyes and I felt this falling feeling, like falling down a hole. I, for some reason, knew this meant some sort of nightmare. I awoke to find myself laying in bed unable to move…all of a sudden I saw something fly across the ground, like a demon… Again it did… All of a sudden it was right in my face… Scared the living day lights out of me… I’m guessing this was some sort of WILD because it turns out I wasnt awake, I was dreaming but it was EXACTLY like real life, more than any lucid I’ve ever been in…
so basically you just tell yourself that your going to have a lucid dream and just think it? I’ve read all the the techs but im a littel confused on MILD. WILD seems more logical to me. I havnt yet had a LD but I’ve been trying VILD, and it has been working for me, so I’m thinking of switching to MIld and WILD.
Well, I finally achieved WILD, on my first try…read here, what I posted at Dv.com
I find WILD easier to to at night. Take last night for instance, I achieved SP, VIbrations AND a dream state within 10 minutes. And this was my first REAL attempt at a WILD. I put on some good earphones to block out the sound so all I could hear was my breathing deeply. I started to feel numbness in my big toe, all of a sudden it shot through my body and I felt as though my hands were on backwards. I then focused on the inside of my eyes, I starred blankly, a passive observer at the area where the bidge of my nose was. I felt an electric shock pulse through my body, all of a sudden the blackness that was inside my body enveloped me. It covered me like a 3d world, All of a sudden the HI in my eyes became intense little geometric shapes flying around on the inside of my eyelide. After this I awoke, and reveled in my success Don’t let anyone tell you its impossible to do at night, different people’s bodies work differently. I plan to dot the same thing tonight with my newfound skill
And for what its worth I layed in bed at 11:00, not extremly tired. (If this will help anyone)
hey the guardians, i knew what you meant untill i had my first HI, it was mostly like white circles shrinking and then dissapearing, but, i first had it when i tried WBTB/WILD, the second time was mid day, when i was trying to AP(i know, sounds stupid ), still was the same, i so far have never experienced full SP tho, but it doesn’t matter if you don’t have HI, no SP is worse, then you could go sleepwalking, but it’s mosly because you don’t notice it but you do have it
I finally got it last night, It was quite like pushing your fingers against your eyes and holding them there. Now I have faith in myself that I can do this WILD… And the SP is not a problem for me, it never was, an the HI now that I know what to look for, isnt either. I really find it funny how we all did these things with such ease when we were children but we lose it as we get older…
Pretty much! I DO have a problem though, so don’t be jealous ! My prob is that when I take a nap in the afternoon, I get extremely close to getting SP(REALLY fast heartbeat; mild HI–dots). My brain wakes me up too soon to see the REAL HI and get the SP, so it doesn’t work SOMETIMES. All I say before bed at night is (and like I said, TRULY mean it): “The next time I’m dreaming, I really, really want to remember to recognize that I’m dreaming…I REALLY DO.” That’s what I say. BTW, congrats on the VILD success! Happing LDing!
)!!! Well, MY problem is that when my body is numb, and my HI is going a bit, my eyes flicker (like I’m going into REM) and then it stops. I KNOW that I am not TOO concious… well maybe, but I totally relax myself…what the HECK is going on?
?) and then I entered a dream…but it was 3rd person 
)wearing farmer-like clothes running the streets in a small town like he was looking for something. He was saying, “Where IS she?”…he was looking for ME!!! When he was saying this, he had a CUTE smile on his face! sigh 
How freaking cool IS THAT!? Then I entered a VERY wierd version of my room. After about 10 sec. my dream went black…and yes another question 
It’s really cool how it has happened the past 2x in a row. What happened was I said/did MILD 2-4x and REALLY MEANT IT. And like I said before: RIGHT BEFORE dreaming I all of a sudden realized that I was in HI and was looking at the fleeting pics. What happened the 2nd time though was that I started waking up b/c I was so excited…I didn’t even get to the HI the 2nd time (I WAS SOOO CLOSE TOO). I DO NOT have a CLUE why this happened. HOW do you relax? I talked to myself in the head (you know, saying stuff like “I’m Lucid…”)…does that screw up the process? WHAT SHOULD I DO? I would LOVE all your comments and suggestions! Thanx!
! I just experiment and see what works for me.
They depend on how much you have posted (10, 50, 100 posts, etc.) and are given automatically. You can change the caption below your name and the avatar (the pic) in your profile (blue button at the top of the forum pages). Your avatar must be not bigger than 80x80 pixels and 10 Kb, as said in the forum and avatar guidelines. The best in my opinion is to host your new avatar on Imageshack (just google for this name). It’s free and there is no time limit. Then you put the link to your hosted avatar in your profile. 
), still was the same, i so far have never experienced full SP tho, but it doesn’t matter if you don’t have HI, no SP is worse, then you could go sleepwalking, but it’s mosly because you don’t notice it but you do have it
! My prob is that when I take a nap in the afternoon, I get extremely close to getting SP(REALLY fast heartbeat; mild HI–dots). My brain wakes me up too soon to see the REAL HI and get the SP, so it doesn’t work SOMETIMES. All I say before bed at night is (and like I said, TRULY mean it): “The next time I’m dreaming, I really, really want to remember to recognize that I’m dreaming…I REALLY DO.” That’s what I say. BTW, congrats on the VILD success! Happing LDing!