Are these OOBE

I replied to your question about wooshing sounds in your other thread.
[url]loud wooshing sound]
I don’t think they are the sign of an OOBE because many LD’ers report them while WILD’ing.

Now what about the difference between a LD and an OOBE? You can find some information in these topics:

Do you think OBE’s are LD’s?
My opinion on OBE’s
Article on OBE and NDE
Astral projection - Just another form of lucid dreaming?
The BIG OBE topic
For all that think OBEs are real part II
My first OBE last night…This is not lucid dreaming.

BTW, I never found any great difference between the descriptions of OBE’s and LD’s. It seems that this difference appeared mainly when LD’ing became more “democratic” and “astral projecters” were first confronted to questions like “Hmmm… Don’t you think OBE’s are lucid dreams?” Before this date, we can read for instance in Muldoon’s book about “astral projection”: “Astral is the realm of dreams”. Thus it seems that even famous OBE’ists didn’t see any difference. :tongue: