I also recently found a note in a Christian Bouchet’s text about LD’ing: he said that, when listening to music when WILD’ing, you can sometimes experience distortions of the rhythm - slower or faster. Thus it sounds like there is a moment when time perception may become wrong.
I dont have to do WBTB when attempting WILD do I?
WBTB isn’t required for WILD, but I believe it makes MUCH MUCH easier.
Figure its good practice for a WILD with WBTB though
what you certainly dont have to do is a full on WBTB.
waking and going back to sleep immedaitely (with the exception of noting down any dreams you might have already had) is probably enough
Chaining is a version of WBTB that might be better for certain people, instead of staying up for 20 minutes. It works better for some people (myself included).
hey just a couple of minutes ago I started a WILD but i was interuped so it kept on feeling like the begining of a WILD. all my muscles are relaxed and every thing. this would be great exept i have a diseas caled tremores wich causes me to shake invalentarily, espectialy when my muscles are relaxed or I am asleep (The reason it take me hours to meditate).
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
hi guys im fairly new but i have seen the guide on WILD and i got the num feeling but i didnt get any images like flashing lights so i dont think my dream was running… i was just standing there for an hour untill a bug landed on my cheek! can anyone help me if so it would b much apriciated at least i got this far in 1 day
hmm, I guess the only thing that can stop the shaking is medicine or something…did the doctor give you anything for it?
Also, you can just ignore the shaking I suppose, or just try for a DILD or MILD or something
I somewhere read that you don´t start dreaming until after some time … So i was wondering how WILD or VILD could work if you start dreaming at the time you fall asleep. Thanks
I think the key to WILD for me is getting further and further, closer and closer to success. There are certain stages in the process. The first thing that happens is I get mild tingles. I used to get excited at this point, thinking, “Oh, is this the vibrations?” and that would throw me back to full wakefulness.
So next time I tried, I knew that the mild tingles didn’t mean success. I didn’t get so excited. I ended up going to the next stage. Following me so far?
Now I am failing at later and later stages, closer to actual success. Last night I hit a REALLY INTENSE vibration. “OMG! I’m getting closer!” and I woke up.
Therefore, my technique is to slowly go through the stages until they’re old hat, not so exciting anymore. Eventually I will be at the last stage and it will work! It makes for multiple nights of failure, however. Meanwhile, getting through the stages, I repeat, “It isn’t working, it isn’t working.” I know, it’s so contradictory, but it helps to avoid excitement.
Another thing that helped me was doing something that would keep me awake while I tried to sleep. I recently took to listening to BrainWave Generator files. Tonight I’m going to try the technique in this thread: [A new WILD technique idea).
EDIT: (Wow, I joined 3 years ago and this is my second post. lol)
True, just wake up 4 to 6 hours after you went to bed and then wake up and do WBTB with WILD and you’ll be sure to be asleep fairly quickly.
After so many attempts, I’ve finally gotten to the edge of WILD. When I do WBTB + WILD, I manage to get the strong HI that I need to get into the dream, but as soon as I get an image (with sounds and stuff) and I can open my dream eyes, and focus on the imagery, I wake up. It’s like I try really hard to focus, and feel the image slipping away, so I try to hold on and it fades away until only the area I was focusing on is still there faintly, and it looks like an afterimage, and my real senses come flooding back. When I don’t focus on the images, the same thing happens, only I’m left with nothing afterwards, no afterimage, just blackness and all my real world senses. For the first time this morning, I was able to look around a dream room, but I still woke up soon afterwards. I tried to move my dream arms, and I tried to talk in my dream, but just experienced my real arms moving (or trying to move, I was in SP, so I felt kinda drained of energy as I tried to move them) and heard my real voice mumbling. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, but I can’t seem to get a full dream body, just dream eyes which I can open and close, and every time I try to focus or think, I wake up.
EDIT:
Here’s a thought: Maybe my body is unable to create a sleep paralysis condition, so when I try to move my dream body while I’m sleeping, I move my real body, and I can feel my real body moving around so it wakes me up. Except during dreams when I move, I still feel really drained of energy, but maybe that’s because my entire body is conditioned for sleep in every way but SP. If that’s the case, is there any way I can really get to lucid dream like everyone else?
i get to were i cant feel my body, and then i drift in and out of sleep because its hard to maintain it, but i havent really been able to withstand my mind, last night I thought i was in a dream so i picked up what i thought was my physical hand and did the nose RC and it worked. then i got so excited that i woke up
I haven’t gotten that far yet, I’m hoping too, do you use WBTB or you do it directly at night?
normally i do it directly but wbtb isnt all that helpful to me unless i fall right back to sleep and if i do that i dont really get a good enough grip to hold on to my conciousness.
So…if you do it directly at night, doesn’t it take you a long time until you enter SP? (Where you can’t control your body)
well, it normally took me 20-30 min and then this sharp sting happened and i went numb, but i couldve controlled it if i wanted to using my mind to wake and control my body. after that its just the test of waiting until a area occurs and once your in you can edit the dream
Just this morning i decided to try WILD, so i layed down, and tryed to go to sleep while keeping my mind awake. I think i layed there for half an hour to an hour. My body felt rly numb but i couldnt get into SP or see any HI or anything. Is there something im doing wrong?