That’s when I try to WILD, about 5 hours after I’ve gone to sleep. I usually just wake up, go the the toilet, then go back to bed and have to try to stay awake.
Problem is I focus too much on my body waiting for SP and HH that I never really manage to reach that stage unless I black out for a few seconds when trying to stay aware then wake up in that state. Any tips for keeping the focus away from that? What technique do you personally use to stay aware? I’ve been using counting (both forwards and backwards) but it doesn’t seem to work for me, as far as keeping my mind occupied.
Heh, this post describes my situation exactly. My advice would be to test few nights in a row with SP. I mean you should see how you feel in each part of SP[for that I would suggest to stay awake longer just to manage to get through that…] especially at part where you get from awake to more awake state. Just the part that you described here:
I’m telling you this because at that point I know that I need to fall asleep, I get special feeling that the best description would be vibrations and something more…
With your test you should figure out how you feel just the moment before you become more awake and then let yourself asleep. Of course, letting yourself asleep is sometimes very hard just because of all this attention you have on your body and in your mind because you don’t want to fall asleep. Again, with that test you should know in which state of SP you are by the feelings you’ll get and then you can easily through each state get more and more relaxed and stop paying attention on being awake and finally at right moment let yourself to fall asleep…
What I do is set my intentions to WILD and then let myself drift off and unless I’m really tired I will wake back up when any type of SP or HH starts. Counting for me keeps me up.
Holidays are coming up, so I’ll have plenty of time to test my own stages of SP and practice more.
I hear that focusing on the inside of your eyelids and what appears there can be helpful when it comes to keeping the focus off of your body, but whenever I try to do that my eyelids always start to open. I suppose I just need to practice that too.
I’ve learned to focus only on what I feel[mostly my body] and then I wait for that moment and just fall asleep and next second I’m in dream, lucid.
There’s a tech for stopping that, it’s called reverse blinking. Whenever that starts to happened you should blink fast a couple times and that should stop unwilling blinking.
You Just gotta practice it, each time you try it you will get a little closer and see what works best for you and before you know it you’ll be WILDing .
I’ve tried reverse blinking, not for that though, just to try getting myself tired again when I wake up for the third time or so in the morning. I’ll keep that in mind and practice watching the dots and images tonight then, thanks.
I just wanted to ask a quick question about WILD. I have tried it quite a bit but never had very much luck. How long should I wait because it seems like i lay there for a half an hour to an hour with nothing happening. How long does it take for you guys to perform this?
If you do it while going to bed, you’ll probably sit there for a long time.
If you use WBTB with WILD, it will take a significantly shorter amount of time.
It can be difficult. At the beginning of the night you have to stay aware to avoid a deep sleep cycle. I’ve gone an hour with no results, and others have gone even longer before a dream. Still, it’s not impossible. Some, like Wyvern, have managed to break through. However, it is much easier if you try it 4-6 hours after first sleeping.
That depends on you… from what I gather from those who have managed to do it, it will still take the same effort and concentration every time.
when u do wild is it the best way of getting lucid dream?
is it instant?
how long does it normally take to SP?
how long does SP last until u are in a dream and being lucid?
is it possible that u will drift off in SP and fail?
pls answer all and not just copied from other sites
well like it takes a bit when i wild i dont really keep track of how fast it takes to get to SP and yes its very possible to lose track of yourself when doing it there have been a few times where i just drifted in and forgot i was in a dream
For me it is WILD the best way but it took me almost a year to get it at that level. The biggest mistake one can do is just lying in bed and waiting for a dream. Doing that you’ll get to a point where you gonna end more awake then you were before bed and it could cause insomnia… [I’ve experienced that]
I like to divide WILD into 3 steps:
WBTB - you need to find good time for WBTB, of course you need to experiment with that… Usually waking up naturally is the best way because it’s going to be natural and calm waking… Also you need to find out for how long you need to be awake to awake your mind but keep your body asleep. Even 5 minutes may be enough.
SP - also a lot of experimenting… the biggest mistake I was talking about is thinking that you can just end up in a dream, well you can’t you need to fall asleep eventually. So the SP is only a bridge to a dream world but you need to know when you should let yourself to fall asleep - which is step 3:
Falling asleep: this is the crucial step. After experimenting with SP to see how long you experience one and how you feel at different stages of SP you can determine when to fall asleep. The point is falling asleep easily and when you feel like you can’t struggle any more then you let yourself to fall asleep and you may at that time experience vibrations, very odd combination of sensations[although that’s how it looks for me but you may experience something totally different, that’s why you need give a time to tech a do some experiments!]. And that part with falling asleep needs to be conscious. That’s mean that you need to think something like this: Ok, this is it, that’s the part about which that dude talked on LD4all and I will now let myself to fall asleep! After that I say that transition from waking world into dream world last’s only a few seconds, maybe it doesn’t but doesn’t matter because you will most probably be lucid from the start.
I’ve learned that nothing is almost instant and by accepting that you will have better and quicker results!
It depends on how tired you are and how comfortable you feel in the position you are trying to fall asleep!
I don’t know that in time because I’ve never end SP intentionally just to see how much time passed.
Yes it’s possible but have on mind that if you get to some point in SP and if you drift off[which practically you need to do but at the right moment] you will still end in a dream with some awareness and you may have lucid dream or better recall or more vivid and life like dream…
I hope this helps, if you have any more questions just ask!
EDIT:
Also if my post is not easy to understand read main post in this topic, it may provide some better answers but basically I said the same!
the time it takes depends on when you do it
if you try when you go to bed it will take 1,5-2 hours to enter the dream( i don’t know exactly for SP)
but if you try in the morning when you just woke up(or WBTB) maybe it will take only the time to count down from 100 to 0 (at least in my experience)
I’m trying WILD but I’m a heavy sleeper and my parents would kill me if I set an alarm for say, three am. So I’ve been trying it around 4 or 5. Today when I did I lost the feeling in my hands after they got all tingly, and in my feet, but not anywhere else. I guess I was partially into the SP state.
So yesterday i was trying this: Before going to bed i listened to music and i mean i really focused on enjoying the music (i really love listening to metal music). Right after this i went to bed and almost instantly got HH. Well this was the tip. My question is: I have already quite a few times achieved to somehow imagine a dream when doing WILD and i thought “uh this might be a dream. they always say you gotta step into that dream” but my problem is always that i fear to lose the awareness if i step into the dream. Can somebody give me advice on how doing that?
First of all, right when you go to bed can be really difficult. You should try waking up at some point during the night and trying then as it will be easier to slip into a dream. I suggest you just imagine yourself interacting with a dream, don’t try to use your muscles, just imagine for example touching something. How would it feel in your hands? it it heave? cold? soft? etc. that really works for me if I’m in the right place
I have only done WILD once which was an accident so obviously I am going to have some questions
-When I see pictures they are always all green and dont have any other color, is that because I don’t wait long enough or because it is how my mind works.
-I never have sound until I enter the dream. (In the one time I did it and I don’t have sound period the other times) again is it that I don’t wait long enough or because its how my mind works.
-And I almost always see scenes happening (without sound) but can’t enter them are there any tips on how to do this.
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