I want to try WILDing more than I can, but I have a tremendous hw load. School cuts into my time a lot, and I haven’t been getting enough sleep lately. My dream recall has been getting worse, but I remember a really strange false awakening.
Anyway, what would you suggest? It’s too much trouble to set my alarm to an early hour and then re-set it for actual wake up time. (I did try this for a while, but to no avail.) Do you think that I should try WILDing as I fall asleep? or what? I might just give up trying to LD until school is over in summer. However, that likely wouldn’t yeild great results either, because last summer I stayed awake for 24 hours and more, more than once. I should probably try to sleep more.
Anyway, what do you suggest?
I got the vibrations yesterday AFTER listening to the bwgen preset DREAM EXPERIENCE 1.4.1, while attempting a WILD before sleeping… Didn’t proceed into an LD.
With Ed’s preset this night (see the Brainwave Generator thread) I didn’t get vibrations but I got a low level lucid dream.
i had an interesting experience with WILD earlier this morning. i’m not sure how close i was to actually entering a dream completely lucid, but it felt close. here’s the story:
I woke up after sleeping for more than 7 hours, and decided that i should at least try to do a WILD. Since i was staying home sick today, i had plenty of time. So, i got on my back and closed my eyes and after about 15 minutes, i could sense some light vibrations. I noticed that every time i breathed in deeply, the vibrations would get more intense for a moment. After breathing in deeply for 5 minutes, i noticed this white light in the corner of my eye, and it gradually started covering my enire eyesite (this is with my eyes closed). i thought i could make out vague shapes in the whiteness, but they were faint dark shadows. was i close to entering a dream?
Yup, it sounds like you were very close from entering your dream world. Next time, relax and let it flow… like a river. Let it flow naturally. When you see something like that again, try to fully enjoy it and pretend that you’re IN it. Eventually you’ll find yourself in it or maybe you can take a LEAP into your dream world. It works. You can also use spinning technique to get a ‘grasp’ of your dream body’s sensation therefore you step into your dream world even further.
These are my 2 cent ideas. Hopefully it is helpful for ya. Good luck!
Actually I take this back because I have read something in “Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming” which contradicts this. WBTB works well for lots of LD methods including WILD, but it can also be done the opposite way. I read that everyone wakes up about 10-15 times every night! It usually happens at the peak of REM and you immediately go back to sleep dreaming and by the time you wake up in the morning, you never remember yourself waking at night. Similar to how if you talked to someone on the phone at 3AM and went back to sleep, you wouldn’t remember it. If you awake at night and don’t move a single muscle in your body, you can enter your dream again very fast because body movement tends to terminate a REM cycle if you just woke up from one. The only problem with this is that some people are too drowsy and may not even have 10 seconds to think about lucid dreaming before clonking out again. The trick is to stay completely still, but say something in your head that wakes you up mentally. Then, keep your intention firmly in your mind as you drift back to sleep. At this point you can resume whatever varation/technique of WILD you usually use as you re-enter your dream world.
I’ve got to try this… because WILD doesn’t give me results yet except when I was dreaming of WILD. Is it common to dream you are WILDing?
I am getting the itches usually similar to what hypnosis does to me.
Also some movement of my legs on their own, currently a sideways movement. Is this a usual effect?
Another problem of mine is when I take a nap I usually try to WILD immediately, not after I wake up from the nap. I reread part 8 of this thread and it seems I should try the latter.
When you do WILD and eventually see an image, you’re supposed not to think about it. But if you’re counting should you keep counting? I’m presuming the answer is yes? What do you think?
I don’t remember dreaming of WILDing. I also can’t remember ever doing it on purpose. It’s just happened spontaneously on a number of occasions.
I get knee jercks and finger flicks in meditation but haven’t had movement like that before the WILD’s I’ve experienced. For the WILD’s I’ve had I’ve been perfectly still beforehand.
That technique I posted induced a LD early this morning, but I forgot to RC to stabilize the dream so it didn’t last long. Anyway, what I did is I woke up again after sleeping for about 7 hours and I just stayed completely still and repeated “I will re-enter my dream and become lucid”. The major key here is to visualize the very last thing you saw in your dream before you woke up. Keep that in your head and before you know it you will actually be in your dream again.
I think counting WILD might be a distraction for this, but it depends on the person. Also, I think you are dreaming of WILD simply because you are concentrating on the technique alone too hard. Keep your thoughts focused on your last dream you were just in.
And about seeing the images, you just keep passively watching them until you find the right moment to “step in” to the dream. However, when I did this WILD I was already well rested for about 7-8 hours so the dream came back very fast. Depending upon how long you have been sleeping will determine how long it takes to re-enter REM. For those who haven’t seen this already, heres a handy chart. “Using REM periods”
7-8 hours… ok I’ll make an effort to try to WILD at around that time.
This afternoon, I did an exercise based on the Laberge description of the counting technique.
I used a mobile to set an alarm for the next 10 minutes.
I relaxed and began counting from 1 onwards as usual.
I found I would be distracted with some other thoughts when the mobile would ring.
I restarted a number of times resetting the alarm.
The last time I began seeing images - the digits I was counting basically…
Not very realistic or clear but I could see their form.
I don’t know but there might be a modified WILD method here. Count the numbers while picturing them at the same time…
At the end there was lots of noise which waked me up for good and it was time to get up, too…
I’ve been trying to WILD for like a week or 2. I have no sucess. I never see images or anything lol. Am I supposed to? I like that emoticon. . How long did it take you to have a WILD? I’m going to try tonight in a couple hours.
I think I had Vibrations yesterday from trying a WILD. I was asking myself am I dreaming over and over again and every so often would check if I was and then after a while I noticed my body was moving I was not moving it and it was moving and I slightly started to shake. I went to bed at 12 and this happened at 12:30.
Do you think it was one? Then again I was probably just imagining it.
i got my 2nd and most recent LD from WILD’ing… i woke up in the middle o the night, recorded my dream, started counting… 1, i’m dreaming, 2, i’m dreaming… and i got to 88… i said 88… then conked out… then continued to say i’m dreaming and actually was in a dream… when i said this i was immediately flung forward superman style soooo fast it was pretty scary and i was inside and i slammed into a wall… it worked but it was crazy… i tried to talk to someone but it all went blurry and i lost it…
i saw the person i “wanted to talk to” but it was only a shadowy thing I WANT TO KNOW WHO IT WAS… AAHHHH!! o well next time.
Last night i tried to WILD again, it was semi successful but i didn’t get into a dream . I was finally able to reach SP but that was about it, I didn’t get any vibrations or anything, just swirls of color in my eyes. Maybe i will get closer next time…who knows.
Eventhough i didn’t get a WILD, i did have 2 lds lastnight, so im still happy .
another idea i had to try is to use earplugs while attempting WILD. This is because when you start to hear sounds, you know its from falling asleep because the earplugs would be blocking sounds from the outside world.
Hopefully it is helpful for ya. 
Good luck!
so it didn’t last long. Anyway, what I did is I woke up again after sleeping for about 7 hours and I just stayed completely still and repeated “I will re-enter my dream and become lucid”. The major key here is to visualize the very last thing you saw in your dream before you woke up. Keep that in your head and before you know it you will actually be in your dream again.
I like that emoticon. 
. How long did it take you to have a WILD? I’m going to try tonight in a couple hours.
. I was finally able to reach SP but that was about it, I didn’t get any vibrations or anything, just swirls of color in my eyes. Maybe i will get closer next time…who knows.
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