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SP is definitely not what I expected when I WILDed last night. It was the closest I’ve ever gotten to a successful WILD, but SP was so weird that it startled me awake!
Okay, here’s how it went: I woke up and did a short WBTB, then got back in bed and started to WILD. I became completely relaxed and mesmerized by the pretty landscapes and images that were appearing before my eyes. I remained concious and alert in my mind, watching the HI peacefully, completely calm. I think this went on for about 30-45 minutes until my entire body started to go numb. I couldn’t feel any part of my body. I knew SP was coming soon; I was really starting to feel as if I was entering a dream. All of a sudden, my entire body started shaking like crazy. Serious, violent shaking. I was terrified by this (it definitely wasn’t pleasant) and to top that off, I started hearing these horrible high-pitched buzzing noises in my ear and also this really loud, staccato “shh-shh-shh-shh-shh” sound that kept blaring at me, getting faster and faster. My heart felt like it was going about a mile a second. I felt as if I was having a seizure, my entire body just wouldn’t stop shaking. Suddenly my body did this weird little jerk and I was awake, completely disoriented. It was then that I realized I’d entered SP, but the shaking had startled me so much that it’d woken me up.
Anyone have any tips for staying calm during SP? It scared the heck out of me…
I had sleep paralysis the other night, but isn’t SP just as it sounds? Paralysis.
I couldn’t move my whole body and I had a tingling feeling all over, I enjoyed the feeling.
I think it depends. Different people experience different things when going into SP. Some just get tingly, others feel like they’re vibrating, others feel like they’re sinking through their matress. You’re lucky you only had to go through a little tingling!
Most people (noobish people) thinks SP is the numb feeling you get from lying still for some time - When you are in Sleep Paralysis you are not able to move AT ALL. Tingling feeling or not, when you are in SP you cannot move! So trying to move would ruin anything! I’m pretty tired of comments like “I was in SP but didn’t want to move cause I would ruin my WILD” - Bullshit -_-
Kaybee: Sounds like an exciting SP experience Ofcourse you didn’t shake for real, it was only a strong hallucination
Congratulations Kaybee2, you’ve just entered the world of SP. I knew it was weird for you because it was the first time you experienced this phenomenon. But I can assure you that all the strange feelings you’ve had during SP are entirely hallucinatory. I know that the vibrations you have experienced seemed very real and that they are strengthened with the fact that you are fully conscious at this time. But still, hallucinations. So, the next time you have SP, play dead (hum in fact you’re already paralyzed), don’t panick, do nothing, the only thing you should think of is entering in the dream world consciously.
And for that, let the vibrations “transport” you into this world. Indeed, only mental thought can be effective during SP, therefore, you will have to move your “dream body” ONLY by thinking.
The secrets to enter the dream world by SP are :
don’t panick (the most difficult),
don’t care about your physical body,
don’t struggle,
think only of entering the dream world
if the vibrations are there through your body, let them “act”.
It’s hard to believe that was all just a hallucination! It felt so real… I’m amazed that I actually go through that every night without realizing it!
I’ll try not to panic next time. I’m hoping that since I’ve been through it now and know that it’s not real, next time I WILD it won’t scare me too much. So basically I just kind of ignore all those weird feelings and just stay focused on entering the dream. Okay.
I do have a couple of questions, though. Is there any way for me to get the vibrations to stop, or do I just have to let them stop on their own? If I relax will they go away? And what do I do when I get into SP? Just lie there and wait for my mind to be sucked into a dream? I’ve heard that a good technique is to simply try to move a part of my “dream body”, like just moving my hand or something. Sorry for sounding like a “noobish person”, I kind of am when it comes to WILDing!
Okay. I’ll just try relaxing and just letting myself enter the dream without trying to force anything. I’m going to try this tonight. Maybe now that I know about it and I’ve been through it, it’ll be easier to face next time.
Advice on not panicking: Just stay indifferent to what is going on. Think stuff like, “whatever” “weird” “like, I’m bored”. It’s pretty funny, actually:-)
Coolness, the mods made this topic sticky! I made a sticky topic! I feel so special! Okay, aaaaaaaanyway. Just kinda had a little moment there.
I didn’t get to try a WILD last night, but I’m going to try again tonight. I’ll try to become indifferent. I’ll post my results tomorrow, and hopefully I’ll have a high-level lucid to blab about! For now, I’m off to dreamland!
I haven’t got sleep paralysis yet, but I went for a WILD just this weekend.
I have heard everybody being really afraid of it, but it just seems kind of cool to me, either that or just pure indifference.
When I have more time I am planning on perfecting the WILD technique.
Classes get in the way of LDing way more than they should.
I can seriously relate, lately I’ve been spending more of my night hours doing homework than lucid dreaming. Sigh…
Which is partly why I really don’t have any updates to talk about regarding my SP adventures. Last night I was up til midnight (doing an uber-important web-surfing coughassignmentcough ) and I don’t try to WILD unless I know I’ll get plenty of sleep. I like to make sure I’m in bed by at least ten if I’m going to WILD (seeing as I have to wake up at seven).
I have to admit, though, I am a little scared this time. Like, I won’t be scared when it’s daytime and I tell myself “Oh, I’ll go ahead and try to WILD tonight”, but when it comes down to it and I’m lying in bed with my eyes closed and that memory of those horrible seizure-like hallucinations, I get nervous about it. Part of me thinks it’s really kind of cool, though, because it’s all in my head and I’m facinated by how the human brain can make something that’s just up there feel so physically real, even though it can’t literally affect or hurt me at all. But I have to say I’m still a little scared.
That is what I did when I had my first WILD a few nights ago. I felt SP, and it was just a vibration throughout my body. It was a bit frightening at how realistic it was (I never had SP before, so I wouldn’t know the feeling) but then I got logical and told myself that this isn’t actually real and I’m not really vibrating, it’s just all in my head. So I just relaxed and waited for it to be over. Besides, if you’re really determined to have a LD, then wait, because if you do and ignore the SP, then your reward will be a lucid dream! Surely your desire to have one is more stronger than a fear of SP? Maybe if it will help, you can imagine what you would do in a lucid dream (ie. flying, having super powers…) during your SP. Well, you can visualize that and wait until your SP is over.
I’m sorry that your SP is so strong. My SP was very easy and small compared to yours. My heartrate didn’t even go up, and all I felt is a slight vibration and numbness. But good luck, hopefully you’ll try WILDing again soon. You can report what would happen here and perhaps we can help you with any other problems you have. Just be skeptical about it! Scoff at the idea of being scared by something that isn’t even real!
And here’s one more guy who just had his first SP experience.
I drank a bottle of water last evening to make sure I’d wake up a few hours later and got to bed. I immediately started to WILD, but in the evening I always just fall asleep without noticing…
Luckily, the water did its job. I woke up 3 hours later… After going back to bed and WILDing for some time I finally experienced that unexpected, strong, strange vibration all over my body… And now I know what you guys talk about all the time… My conclusion: If you have to ask whether you experienced SP, the answer is you didn’t. If you experience it, you know…
Although I know what it was and I thus wasn’t afraid of it, the vibration woke me up… Stupid me! But anyway, I consider this a major success on my Pathway to Lucidity. Can’t wait for further experiments tonight!
Just two things were a little bit strange:
I had the feeling that the vibrations “were trying to shake my eyes open”. It took some effort to keep them closed. Do you know what I mean?
I didn’t have any HI during SP. Maybe it’s because the experience caught me off guard. But if it stays like that, in my first LD I will enter a dark, black room and be all alone… I’m having some problems with HI anyway, although I try to visualize different stuff…
Yeah I like your conclusion, if you experience a SP, you know it, period… otherwise, you’re gonna wonder whether it was a SP or not.
1 : Well, having your eyes open during SP isn’t a problem, but you may start seeing scary things in your room. But I never heard of someone whose the experience of SP was making them open their eyes. It’s not a big deal, I think… We shall see in the future what’s gonna happen.
2 : I, for instance, don’t have HI during SP (or very rarely), but one time, I tried to use the vibrations to feel like I was riding a bike (if you know what I mean ==> usin the “energy” of the vibrations), and it worked very well. The dream was gonna start when, for some reason, I woke up.
The next time you have SP try opening your eyes, and you may as well see strange forms in your room or you could also hear voices or strange sounds by your ears.
Consciously entering SP eludes me. I count myself to sleep or I watch my HI and then all of a sudden my heart rate soars and I feel like a big shift is occurring and then… nothing. My foot is in the threshold but the door shuts.
Maybe you aren’t sleepy enough. For me, “crossing the threshold” -as you say- is very hard when I’m too awake. But in the middle of the night or early in the morning wen I wake up from a dream and I don’t move, I can easily enter SP. Nevertheless, entering SP isn’t always easy, but I think that being sleepy & aware is one of the keys to do so.
Ofcourse you didn’t shake for real, it was only a strong hallucination 
Okay, aaaaaaaanyway. Just kinda had a little moment there. 
For now, I’m off to dreamland!
) and I don’t try to WILD unless I know I’ll get plenty of sleep. I like to make sure I’m in bed by at least ten if I’m going to WILD (seeing as I have to wake up at seven).
Maybe if it will help, you can imagine what you would do in a lucid dream (ie. flying, having super powers…) during your SP. Well, you can visualize that and wait until your SP is over.
My SP was very easy and small compared to yours. My heartrate didn’t even go up, and all I felt is a slight vibration and numbness. But good luck, hopefully you’ll try WILDing again soon. You can report what would happen here and perhaps we can help you with any other problems you have. 
Just be skeptical about it! Scoff at the idea of being scared by something that isn’t even real!
After going back to bed and WILDing for some time I 
I’m having some problems with HI anyway, although I try to visualize different stuff…