I know - I posted it in “Helpdesk” but someone suggested to move it and I confirmed, and I think it was the right choice…
Wissam, did you read the post in full before replying
my first impulse was to put it in the remembering dreams topic…
but the main problem is waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep again! and this is classed as insomnia if it results in not getting enough sleep.
People in another forum told me to see an adventure movie or to read a book before go to sleep, and I have, and I got to bed later then usual, and I woke up at 6:40 am! I didn’t told to myself “I will remember dreams and the morning” a lot of times, only once - and when I woke up this morning I felt good(even I didn’t sleep enough, but it was better then the past few days, and I hope it will get better) and I think I had an interesting dream, even I don’t remember it all… I just remember I ripped something.
Sorry guys…I was in a bad mood as i was hoping someone replied to my insomnia problem. I guess it does count as insomnia.
I discovered that I got up later because i got to bed later… 
1 day later I got to bed and thought I’ll wake up at 6:40 again, but I woke up at 5:00… And I solved the dream recall problem… The early waking up makes my recall suckish…
The recall isn’t suck for real - I remember my last dream when I wake up, but because it is so early I don’t think about writing it, but about going back to sleep, and then I forget my dream… Please help me as soon as possible!
One more thing, about the insomnia of the guy who posted the message - try see a movie or something like that before you go to sleep - watch the movie while lying on your bed - I always fall asleep when I do that. If you can’t watch a movie from your bed, just try to let your minds “flow”, and if that doesn’t work too, you can always use pills…
/me reads through topic…
imm0rtal
just relax in bed
go to bed tired
watch TV or read in bed to relax
Sleepyhead
more physical exercise in the day can help
Learjet
don’t nap in the day to catch up
#sixFirst I think it’s good to write all about what went on during the day, because most likely those recent day thoughts are what’ll keep you up. Youv’e got to get it out of you some way, and just thinking about it is the root to insomnia.
clarkkent
avoid caffeine
Ev
try melatonin
SeanIRL
Apparantly, it’s best to sleep with your head pointing NORTH because of the Earth’s magnetic field
ihatejacknjills
Meditation
Nathan Roy
Try warm milk with a little bit of vanilla and sugar in it.
try counting: 1, im dreaming, 2, im dreaming, etc. Sorta like sheep but Dreams instead. 
milod789
do not exercise before bed
only use your bedroon for sleeping
Don’t watch the clock when you are trying to sleep.
R3TRO
61 point relaxation method <-- link
Dark Sider
keep healthy sleep habits: only use the bed for sleep, and always go to bed at the same time, and always get up at the same time, even on weekends.
FireHorse
Lay still, because just by laying quietly and thinking pleasant thoughts you are resting your body and your mind.
While not quite as refreshing as sleep, it is quite enough to keep you going and more importantly it takes the pressure off of trying to go to sleep. Laying still and not fretting, try it.
Abyss
Lay down in bed early, and practice using a WILD method. I find a lot of hidden fatigue will come up
Iluminada
I have cornflakes w/ warm milk and some sugar (splenda) but sugar is better. or a cup of chamomille tea w/ honey.
Basilus West
Here you can find a general article about insomnia:
Treatment Methods for Insomnia: Critical Evaluation
In herbal treatments or tea, chamomile, valerian and passion flower are said to be sedative.
mystic
Drink some good hot milk before going to bed 
It must be hot because cold milk doesn’t work (because in hot milk there’s far more tryptophan, a precursor to some important brain chemicals involved with sleep).
pasQuale
i found this article with helpful tips. Hope it is of help to anyone.
selfgrowth.com/articles/Turo-Shields8.html
Spreaderoffear
How about using Brainwave generator or another Binaural beat program or Cd.Walmart sells a Cd called “Sleep” that works
siiw
I have found out that there is little use in trying hard to fall asleep. What works best for me, is to make the time in bed less boring by for example imagining interesting scenes. They have to be far from real life, to not start distracting trains of thought. More often than not, I fall asleep in the middle of that.
Something else that works for me is to pay attention to the feeling of lying in bed, how comfortable it is, and how hard it would be if i had to get up now.
Kindreamings
Try reading something that is really boring to you at the time.
finally as a last resort there is always mild sleeping tablets
I will split this topic now. 
At times it can also be helpful to try not to think about anything, or to imagine something. It really depends on the insomniac. The warm milk trick mentioned above does wonders .
i had problems with sleeping. but i just found this awesome awesome program that changes brainwaves. it helps with studying and sleeping. i used to lie awake for HOURS, after using this program, it takes 15-30 MINUTES TOPS!
just download it for free on the site! good luck!
oh and choose the sleeping aid option on the program!
yes bwgen works wonders.
I have this problem where if my throat is a little scratchy I can’t fall asleep. I have this urge to swallow giving my throat temperary relief. I think this is pretty much in my head. Any tips other than pasing out using nyquil?
it usually takes me about 2 hours to get to sleep, depending on how tired i am
im going to try the thing from bwgen tonight and see if it works 
So last night i took two tablets of melatonin
and then it took me 3 hours to fall asleep with no recall
now, this seems contradictory to what a sleep aid should in fact do, which is… help you sleep.
perhaps it’s because my sleep cycle is shot to hell?
At any rate, i would appreciate some help getting to sleep at night.
About the BWgen: do you need to be in bed while listening to it? because that isn’t an option for me.
It surprises me how many people here have insomnia or just don’t sleep that well. Is is there a relation between interest in dreaming and bad sleep? Anyway, this also applies to me a bit. I have troubles sleeping when I go to bed early, like when I have school next day, because I only fall in sleep fast when I go to bed late. Sometimes I even get a little depressive when I go to bed early.
moved from adventures forum to the big insomnia topic 
i can’t usually go to sleep until around 2:30 its a reverse insomnia of a kind i guess anyways can someone give me a tip on how to do LD?
Hmm…if you have an insomnia problem that bad, I would think your first priority is to see a doctor or specialist of some kind. Yeah, if you can’t go to sleep until 2:30 AM, that’s going to be a major problem in learning to LD properly. If I were you, I would see a doctor before even thinking about attempting to LD. Once you have overcome that particular obstacle, then you can think about LDing, but for now, I would strongly advise that you get the insomnia situation under control. I am not pretending to be a doctor, I’m simply telling you what I would do in your situation.
Sunolet, you will find lots of advice about your sleeping problem here
BTW if you feel rested when you wake up the next day, this late time wouldn’t be a problem.
Otherwise, relaxation or meditation will help a lot. Or if your body clock needs adjusting short term use of melatonin would help (trouble is I don’t think this is freely available in all countries).
For LDing advice just read the main site and there is already a lot of advice about starting to LD in the quest forum. (It’s a good idea to read the choosing your technique topic in the knowledge base to discover which method may work the best for you 
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It’s not just dreamers – it’s a problem with how we run our society.
As for how to deal with it, I’ve found that breathing in and out quickly through my nose (hyperventilating) really helps me to fall asleep. I do 50 breaths, and I’m usually out in 1-2 minutes. Don’t do more than 100 breaths, or you’ll be asking for trouble… 
If you have insomnia, try it!
Thanks for the intell about insomnia. 
And about hyperventilation, that is a nice idea! I’ll trie it. I do not think I have insomnia, but I have problems falling asleep sometimes. Maybe I do have this, I won’t know. Anyway, I’ll trie it!
i really need some tips on how to fall asleep. PLEASE help me out!!!
Here is a tip.
RELAX! Relaxing and closing your eyes, picturing a scene and letting your body rest, this will put you to sleep quickly.
Also, please be literate.
Okay, this is what I do when I’m tired occasionally:
-Reverse blinking. Close your eyes, open for less than a second, close. Just like normal blinking. It gets me pretty tired.
-Vigorous excercise.
-Watching T.V, playing games.
-Read a long book. I’ve been reading The Fountainhead, puts me to bed quickly. (Great book by the way.)
-Chatroom on Ld4all. Share your insomnia with other manic people.
-Red wine and sleeping pills.
-Trying to keep your eyes open for a period of time (5 minutes for me) gets me shockingly tired.
-Change your sleeping location.
-Turn the lights on/off. Experiment
-Take a very cold shower. That makes me collapse on the floor and feel tired/weak.
Yeah, try and be more literate like shatterspike said. If this wasn’t such a friendly, nice place, I would’ve been calling you a fucking idiot by now and flaming you.